Comments on: Catalog Photographer Train Wreck http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/ Former Photography Director Rob Haggart Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:39:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Joe Reifer - Words » Blog Archive » Zeroville, Robert Adams, Todd Hido, The Shot http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1632 Joe Reifer - Words » Blog Archive » Zeroville, Robert Adams, Todd Hido, The Shot Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:18:18 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1632 [...] who cares about art when you can just watch The Shot, [...] [...] who cares about art when you can just watch The Shot, [...]

]]> By: not a photographer http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1579 not a photographer Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:13:22 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1579 all would be (and maybe current) photo assistants should see http://www.photoassistant.net/ it's been a good read and James has lots of good assisting advice all would be (and maybe current) photo assistants should see http://www.photoassistant.net/ it’s been a good read and James has lots of good assisting advice

]]> By: Bosnian Dean http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1574 Bosnian Dean Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:39:32 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1574 Leesten to me stupids. Dean ees de best fotographer. I fight en Bosnian Warr. Eh you, follow my ruhles! Ruhle 1: SHUT UPS! Wen I talks, you mouth closed. Ruhle 2: eef talent give you problem, punch face. Even childs. Ruhle 3: Never leesten girlman Russel Jemmes. He look like girl homosexual and like the keesing boys. Ruhle 4: Have "vision." (F step 2.8) Ruhle 5: Asseestants are like toilet peyper. Only for wipeeng buttholes and for crying like baby. I wil WIN! Too bad retard Ivan gone. Now I make wedding fotographer my bitch. Fuchs you, Dean from Bosnia Leesten to me stupids. Dean ees de best fotographer. I fight en Bosnian Warr.

Eh you, follow my ruhles!

Ruhle 1: SHUT UPS! Wen I talks, you mouth closed.

Ruhle 2: eef talent give you problem, punch face. Even childs.

Ruhle 3: Never leesten girlman Russel Jemmes. He look like girl homosexual and like the keesing boys.

Ruhle 4: Have “vision.” (F step 2.8)

Ruhle 5: Asseestants are like toilet peyper. Only for wipeeng buttholes and for crying like baby.

I wil WIN! Too bad retard Ivan gone. Now I make wedding fotographer my bitch.

Fuchs you,

Dean from Bosnia

]]> By: Thinking on Photography » 一个摄影师的忠告 http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1565 Thinking on Photography » 一个摄影师的忠告 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:48:12 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1565 [...] 另外作者还写了另外一篇文章《出轨的产品目录的摄影师》，继续大力的对《The Shot》节目的流程及制作方式提出了一系列质疑。不过不管怎么样来说，大家吸引眼球的目的也都达到了，皆大欢喜。 [...] [...] 另外作者还写了另外一篇文章《出轨的产品目录的摄影师》，继续大力的对《The Shot》节目的流程及制作方式提出了一系列质疑。不过不管怎么样来说，大家吸引眼球的目的也都达到了，皆大欢喜。 [...]

]]> By: Red http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1554 Red Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:03:23 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1554 # As long as your photos are good it doesn’t matter if you follow instructions. ...follow the art direction but don’t let it get in the way of making good pictures first. I've learned this to be the painful truth as well. When the sh*t hits the fan, what it definitely boils down to at the end of the day is people want to see pretty stuff. And it is apparently more acceptable to come up with pretty pictures than make a strong artistic statement. It may go against your fundamental artistic principles, but in the commercial or magazine world, this is clearly the rule. This is why America is America and France is France. # Talking about photography is really difficult so people tend to focus on shit they know something about. Another ugly truth. Sometimes it's just their failure to articulate what they truly mean, but sometimes they just don't care about craftsmanship or subtlety. This makes sense however if your audience sees things that way. A lot of people don't really see proportions, rhythm, nuances in expression, or structural principles, they just see hair, boobs, lips, fat, and occasionally, "fashion". # Fashion people love graphically strong images. Amen. This is a euphemism for: if the images do not "blow you away", they are BOOORRRING. A typical knee-jerk reaction. With the exception of celebrity photography, people usually go for very colorful stuff, or something soft-focus/dreamy, or something outrageous (or rare). This explains the popularity of bad hair/makeup art (that for some reason people equate with being creative), retro photography and polaroids, and random props (though random props can be good, if used in an witty way). # As long as your photos are good it doesn’t matter if you follow instructions. …follow the art direction but don’t let it get in the way of making good pictures first.

I’ve learned this to be the painful truth as well. When the sh*t hits the fan, what it definitely boils down to at the end of the day is people want to see pretty stuff. And it is apparently more acceptable to come up with pretty pictures than make a strong artistic statement. It may go against your fundamental artistic principles, but in the commercial or magazine world, this is clearly the rule. This is why America is America and France is France.

# Talking about photography is really difficult so people tend to focus on shit they know something about.

Another ugly truth. Sometimes it’s just their failure to articulate what they truly mean, but sometimes they just don’t care about craftsmanship or subtlety. This makes sense however if your audience sees things that way. A lot of people don’t really see proportions, rhythm, nuances in expression, or structural principles, they just see hair, boobs, lips, fat, and occasionally, “fashion”.

# Fashion people love graphically strong images.

Amen. This is a euphemism for: if the images do not “blow you away”, they are BOOORRRING. A typical knee-jerk reaction. With the exception of celebrity photography, people usually go for very colorful stuff, or something soft-focus/dreamy, or something outrageous (or rare). This explains the popularity of bad hair/makeup art (that for some reason people equate with being creative), retro photography and polaroids, and random props (though random props can be good, if used in an witty way).

]]> By: nika http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1551 nika Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:37:50 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1551 I am betting the least-sucking (oh, jeez, that sounds counter-intuitive) contestant wins. I just want to know how the first show relates to any sort of approximation of reality? In what universe would a gaggle of ego-driven fashion photographers be forced to work TOGETHER, with a TEAM LEADER? How would this challenge be a metric of anything? Would the Next Great Fashion Photographer (sic ) be a good leader of fellow photographers or of assistants? I felt so sorry for the supermodel. Beauty isnt supposed to barf. Nika _____ http://nikaboyce.com I am betting the least-sucking (oh, jeez, that sounds counter-intuitive) contestant wins.

I just want to know how the first show relates to any sort of approximation of reality? In what universe would a gaggle of ego-driven fashion photographers be forced to work TOGETHER, with a TEAM LEADER?

How would this challenge be a metric of anything?

Would the Next Great Fashion Photographer (sic ) be a good leader of fellow photographers or of assistants?

I felt so sorry for the supermodel. Beauty isnt supposed to barf.

Nika
_____
http://nikaboyce.com

]]> By: A Photo Editor http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1546 A Photo Editor Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:56:50 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1546 No. Not from what I've seen so far. I'll be interested to see if anyone actually gets better or if the winner just sucks the least. No. Not from what I’ve seen so far. I’ll be interested to see if anyone actually gets better or if the winner just sucks the least.

]]> By: Bruce DeBoer http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1543 Bruce DeBoer Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:48:00 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1543 PE: I really thrilled you acknowledged the assistants. In the second episode (yes, I'm a little embarrassed we watched it last night) one of the contestants rearranged the lighting that was set for them (by assistants I'm sure) and didn't even get a single shot off in the short 15 minutes they had. I'm watching with full expectation that those who think the are already great are going to lose big because they don't know how to listen to, and rely on their crew. PE: I really thrilled you acknowledged the assistants. In the second episode (yes, I’m a little embarrassed we watched it last night) one of the contestants rearranged the lighting that was set for them (by assistants I’m sure) and didn’t even get a single shot off in the short 15 minutes they had. I’m watching with full expectation that those who think the are already great are going to lose big because they don’t know how to listen to, and rely on their crew.

]]> By: Meredith http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1540 Meredith Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:40:56 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1540 question: do you think you would ever hire anyone off that show? question:

do you think you would ever hire anyone off that show?

]]> By: jmgiordano http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1537 jmgiordano Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:50:30 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1537 is it me, or does that dude Dean need to go. That kid shoot was disturbing. It seemed like some kind of Bosnia war scene. Seriously. He was like orchestrating it! PS: Ed. Thanks for keeping an eye on the Shot! It's like friggin crack! is it me, or does that dude Dean need to go. That kid shoot was disturbing. It seemed like some kind of Bosnia war scene. Seriously. He was like orchestrating it!
PS: Ed. Thanks for keeping an eye on the Shot! It’s like friggin crack!

]]> By: Nick Haskins http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1533 Nick Haskins Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:25 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1533 I agree with you on the assistants making it happen, mine work their arse off! Furthermore, why the heck didn't they send that girl packin yesterday? I suppose as long as big guy is directing little guy...little guy wont ever have a chance! I agree with you on the assistants making it happen, mine work their arse off! Furthermore, why the heck didn’t they send that girl packin yesterday? I suppose as long as big guy is directing little guy…little guy wont ever have a chance!

]]> By: A Photo Editor http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1532 A Photo Editor Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:58:18 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1532 Fixed. “The Shot” on VH1. Fixed. “The Shot” on VH1.

]]> By: Ramses Moya http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1531 Ramses Moya Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:39:49 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/11/12/catalog-photographer-train-wreck/#comment-1531 What show you got it from iTunes? What show you got it from iTunes?

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