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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Bitter Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: America By The Numbers &#171; ChromaticSoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>America By The Numbers &#171; ChromaticSoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I found the TIME Magazine article via A Photo Editor who was suddenly outraged to discover that according to the poll, photographers are a rather [...]</description>
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		<title>By: London</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-2/#comment-4381</link>
		<dc:creator>London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im both a full time working photographer and a bartender 2 nights a week. I love both my jobs. Both require skills. Both make me good money and both make me very happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im both a full time working photographer and a bartender 2 nights a week. I love both my jobs. Both require skills. Both make me good money and both make me very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Primoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are just very special sort of people, who likes to complain all the time and about pretty much everything :)
So on the end it looks like we are extremely unhappy with our jobs, even though in reality, it&#039;s not really like that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are just very special sort of people, who likes to complain all the time and about pretty much everything <img src='http://www.aphotoeditor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
So on the end it looks like we are extremely unhappy with our jobs, even though in reality, it&#8217;s not really like that <img src='http://www.aphotoeditor.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Martha Retallick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Retallick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see when I was last unhappy as a photographer...

Well, there was that thunderstormy afternoon back in June 1981. It was in North Carolina, and I was biking around the country. I&#039;d just and just managed to pedal off the road and into a dry spot.

Whew! 

There I was, shooting away on the front porch of an abandoned store, and the wind switched directions. My trusty old camera got doused. And that put it out of commission until I got to my parents&#039; house in Pennsylvania. 

They generously spotted me the cost of a train ticket to and from Philadelphia, where I found a guy who did a bang-up job of cleaning and tuning up the camera.

That guy was at Roth Camera Repair, which is still in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see when I was last unhappy as a photographer&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, there was that thunderstormy afternoon back in June 1981. It was in North Carolina, and I was biking around the country. I&#8217;d just and just managed to pedal off the road and into a dry spot.</p>
<p>Whew! </p>
<p>There I was, shooting away on the front porch of an abandoned store, and the wind switched directions. My trusty old camera got doused. And that put it out of commission until I got to my parents&#8217; house in Pennsylvania. </p>
<p>They generously spotted me the cost of a train ticket to and from Philadelphia, where I found a guy who did a bang-up job of cleaning and tuning up the camera.</p>
<p>That guy was at Roth Camera Repair, which is still in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bolster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bolster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@49
FDR was a politician and liked taxes and welfare.  HE HAD money.</description>
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FDR was a politician and liked taxes and welfare.  HE HAD money.</p>
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		<title>By: FRANKLIN D ROOSEVELT</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRANKLIN D ROOSEVELT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happiness is not in the mere possession of money; it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happiness is not in the mere possession of money; it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort.</p>
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		<title>By: colin pantall</title>
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		<dc:creator>colin pantall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe all the unhappy photographers are Amy Winehouse chasing paps who are doing it for the money - but the  money&#039;s not going up, no, no, no.

There&#039;s a great story on the paparazzi in last weekend&#039;s guardian - my favourite bits are when they see Kalpesh Lathigra&#039;s Leica and say &quot;What the fuck&#039;s that?&quot; and why they call Jude Law Celebrity Dave.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,2226725,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe all the unhappy photographers are Amy Winehouse chasing paps who are doing it for the money &#8211; but the  money&#8217;s not going up, no, no, no.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a great story on the paparazzi in last weekend&#8217;s guardian &#8211; my favourite bits are when they see Kalpesh Lathigra&#8217;s Leica and say &#8220;What the fuck&#8217;s that?&#8221; and why they call Jude Law Celebrity Dave.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,2226725,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,2226725,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: beth klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>beth klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just like beauty, happiness in within the eye of the beholder.

i have found teachers that hate their jobs + mothers that love being stay at home moms.

regarding &quot;unskilled workers are the least happy&quot; i would dare to question photo journalists that are Yale or Harvard educated. i would dare to say that many people are educated with backgrounds in fine art and journalism.

yes photographers may be &quot;unhappy&quot; with the direction the industry is going, but overall &quot;unhappy&quot; is a bit too general of a statement.

they need to show better statistical analysis on how they formed this survey.
eh emm lets just say this wasn&#039;t written by a NYtimes editor =)

people may claim to be &quot;happy in a corporate structure&quot; (i base this on the whole skilled worker comment) where they clock in and out, but that is not the nature of an artist.  i find most artists that are able to really &quot;produce images&quot; to be some of the most fulfilled individuals, but they have the most difficult path because they write the future for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just like beauty, happiness in within the eye of the beholder.</p>
<p>i have found teachers that hate their jobs + mothers that love being stay at home moms.</p>
<p>regarding &#8220;unskilled workers are the least happy&#8221; i would dare to question photo journalists that are Yale or Harvard educated. i would dare to say that many people are educated with backgrounds in fine art and journalism.</p>
<p>yes photographers may be &#8220;unhappy&#8221; with the direction the industry is going, but overall &#8220;unhappy&#8221; is a bit too general of a statement.</p>
<p>they need to show better statistical analysis on how they formed this survey.<br />
eh emm lets just say this wasn&#8217;t written by a NYtimes editor =)</p>
<p>people may claim to be &#8220;happy in a corporate structure&#8221; (i base this on the whole skilled worker comment) where they clock in and out, but that is not the nature of an artist.  i find most artists that are able to really &#8220;produce images&#8221; to be some of the most fulfilled individuals, but they have the most difficult path because they write the future for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is definitely important. See how long you&#039;ll enjoy it if you can&#039;t put a roof over your head. Doing it only for money, on the other hand, makes it just a job.

For me it requires a balance. I need to make money to continue doing what I love. I need to shoot things that inspire me in order to keep doing what I do. If I don&#039;t have both ingredients, I might as well be doing something else. This career is a lot of work. Here I am working Sunday afternoon, something I would not do for someone else though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is definitely important. See how long you&#8217;ll enjoy it if you can&#8217;t put a roof over your head. Doing it only for money, on the other hand, makes it just a job.</p>
<p>For me it requires a balance. I need to make money to continue doing what I love. I need to shoot things that inspire me in order to keep doing what I do. If I don&#8217;t have both ingredients, I might as well be doing something else. This career is a lot of work. Here I am working Sunday afternoon, something I would not do for someone else though.</p>
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		<title>By: Shen Wei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shen Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the unhappy photographers are the ones just do it for money and not for passion.  I don&#039;t make loads of money doing fine art photography, but I am very happy because that&#039;s what I love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the unhappy photographers are the ones just do it for money and not for passion.  I don&#8217;t make loads of money doing fine art photography, but I am very happy because that&#8217;s what I love.</p>
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		<title>By: James Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is silly.

Who&#039;s happy, who&#039;s not happy?

If you wake up you should be happy. 

Damn compared to 99% of the world most of us  live like  Greek Gods.

Sure I work 18 hour days, never stop pushing, never stop thinking about what I need to do, but that doesn&#039;t make me any more important or special than some guy that&#039;s pulling rocks out of a field for $5 a day.

I&#039;ve heard my whole career about the &quot;good ol&#039; days&quot; and I have a flash for everyone, these are the good ol&#039; days.

We have less prejudice, more openess, more access to every market than ever and we can produce, shoot and display our images in hours instead of days, days instead of weeks.

I can sit in NY prepro a job for Paris, shoot it and return in 3 days.

I can send out 50 promos a day just by the click of a button and work virutal, real time, with clients all over the world.

Of course we run into uninspired clients, that&#039;s what they usually pay us for . . . our inspiration.

Of course stock photography is dropping to $2 an image, but Stock has been working towards this forever.   Then again it&#039;s &quot;Stock&quot; photography.

Of course editorial doesn&#039;t pay worth a damn.  It never really did, except for a few talented and forutnate people, but don&#039;t think for a minute that 99.99999% of the photographers in this world wouldn&#039;t shoot a NY Times Magazine Cover for free, because they will and if I know it, the NY Times knows it.

My wife and I have partnered in work for 10 years and work a lot of brutal hours.  

Friends and family constantly say &quot;you work too hard, too much&quot;, but I think people that know how to work hard (and enjoy it) are blessed, not cursed.

This is a  hard industry, it always has been and few people can do it long term with success.

I find that a good thing.

James Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is silly.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s happy, who&#8217;s not happy?</p>
<p>If you wake up you should be happy. </p>
<p>Damn compared to 99% of the world most of us  live like  Greek Gods.</p>
<p>Sure I work 18 hour days, never stop pushing, never stop thinking about what I need to do, but that doesn&#8217;t make me any more important or special than some guy that&#8217;s pulling rocks out of a field for $5 a day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard my whole career about the &#8220;good ol&#8217; days&#8221; and I have a flash for everyone, these are the good ol&#8217; days.</p>
<p>We have less prejudice, more openess, more access to every market than ever and we can produce, shoot and display our images in hours instead of days, days instead of weeks.</p>
<p>I can sit in NY prepro a job for Paris, shoot it and return in 3 days.</p>
<p>I can send out 50 promos a day just by the click of a button and work virutal, real time, with clients all over the world.</p>
<p>Of course we run into uninspired clients, that&#8217;s what they usually pay us for . . . our inspiration.</p>
<p>Of course stock photography is dropping to $2 an image, but Stock has been working towards this forever.   Then again it&#8217;s &#8220;Stock&#8221; photography.</p>
<p>Of course editorial doesn&#8217;t pay worth a damn.  It never really did, except for a few talented and forutnate people, but don&#8217;t think for a minute that 99.99999% of the photographers in this world wouldn&#8217;t shoot a NY Times Magazine Cover for free, because they will and if I know it, the NY Times knows it.</p>
<p>My wife and I have partnered in work for 10 years and work a lot of brutal hours.  </p>
<p>Friends and family constantly say &#8220;you work too hard, too much&#8221;, but I think people that know how to work hard (and enjoy it) are blessed, not cursed.</p>
<p>This is a  hard industry, it always has been and few people can do it long term with success.</p>
<p>I find that a good thing.</p>
<p>James Russell</p>
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		<title>By: John Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not happy because they&#039;re not making a living (or enough) because they have not idea that being a photographer is being a BUSINESS!

-- John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not happy because they&#8217;re not making a living (or enough) because they have not idea that being a photographer is being a BUSINESS!</p>
<p>&#8211; John</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bolster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bolster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15 and @30,
Bruce,
I&#039;m sorry for your loss.  After taking a look at her website, she TRULY had talent and a wonderful vision of life...
And you are completely right about the yin and yang of developing a tough skin if you want to be a professional and not a &quot;hobbyist&quot;.  I&#039;ve been a pro for 23 years and I do my best work with clients who aren&#039;t a hassle, pay on time, aren&#039;t cheap, understand production values, and in general are NICE people.
With anyone else, it&#039;s &quot;just the cash check&quot; mentality.
Part of me wants to give my absolute best to EVERY client, but if I did, I would go broke AND be unhappy about my chosen field.
Hell, I don&#039;t even need a big budget...Just a kind word every now and then and a thank you can go a long ways towards keeping me happy.
It&#039;s important every now and then to step back and try looking at the big picture since most photographers have tunnel vision being so wrapped up in our lifestyle and &quot;vision/style&quot; quest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 and @30,<br />
Bruce,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry for your loss.  After taking a look at her website, she TRULY had talent and a wonderful vision of life&#8230;<br />
And you are completely right about the yin and yang of developing a tough skin if you want to be a professional and not a &#8220;hobbyist&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been a pro for 23 years and I do my best work with clients who aren&#8217;t a hassle, pay on time, aren&#8217;t cheap, understand production values, and in general are NICE people.<br />
With anyone else, it&#8217;s &#8220;just the cash check&#8221; mentality.<br />
Part of me wants to give my absolute best to EVERY client, but if I did, I would go broke AND be unhappy about my chosen field.<br />
Hell, I don&#8217;t even need a big budget&#8230;Just a kind word every now and then and a thank you can go a long ways towards keeping me happy.<br />
It&#8217;s important every now and then to step back and try looking at the big picture since most photographers have tunnel vision being so wrapped up in our lifestyle and &#8220;vision/style&#8221; quest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael T. Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael T. Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 28 &gt;&gt; Funny thing about the manual labor is that housekeepers are right at the top. What does that say? 

Thanks Kevin!  You know I have been looking for a new career after reading that article. Do you need an assistant? How do I get started? ;&gt;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 28 &gt;&gt; Funny thing about the manual labor is that housekeepers are right at the top. What does that say? </p>
<p>Thanks Kevin!  You know I have been looking for a new career after reading that article. Do you need an assistant? How do I get started? ;&gt;)</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Reifer - Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happiness, night photography, pricing, comedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Reifer - Words &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happiness, night photography, pricing, comedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Photo Editor reports on the news that photographers are not happy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Double Whammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double Whammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine being not only a photographer, but a photographer in Italy:

http://tinyurl.com/264lnl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine being not only a photographer, but a photographer in Italy:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/264lnl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/264lnl</a></p>
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		<title>By: I like fucking</title>
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		<dc:creator>I like fucking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you effing kidding me?&quot;

Your website is one of the few that I actually type into my address bar. Everyone else is a lowly bookmark. All praise aside I&#039;m too effing tired to read all the yammer of the previous comments. I did however read #38 Chad Holders comment and knowing myself  best if the stylist assistant was late I&#039;d probably break out a 12 pack and convince everyone to play drink while you think until they arrived rather than becoming upset and pissy faced. 

I guess only time will tell. I&#039;ve recently decided to take Photography from Hobby to something I could make a living at. While not quite the Bartender who says he&#039;s a photographer I do let people know that I fully intend on being a Professional Photographer in due time. 

No I will not show you my website. Yet.

And you can say fucking. I like fucking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you effing kidding me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Your website is one of the few that I actually type into my address bar. Everyone else is a lowly bookmark. All praise aside I&#8217;m too effing tired to read all the yammer of the previous comments. I did however read #38 Chad Holders comment and knowing myself  best if the stylist assistant was late I&#8217;d probably break out a 12 pack and convince everyone to play drink while you think until they arrived rather than becoming upset and pissy faced. </p>
<p>I guess only time will tell. I&#8217;ve recently decided to take Photography from Hobby to something I could make a living at. While not quite the Bartender who says he&#8217;s a photographer I do let people know that I fully intend on being a Professional Photographer in due time. </p>
<p>No I will not show you my website. Yet.</p>
<p>And you can say fucking. I like fucking.</p>
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		<title>By: chad holder</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3843</link>
		<dc:creator>chad holder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is interesting to see how many of these comments link a photographers happiness to money and the amount of work they have.  (yes, i know a few didn&#039;t)  

but making money and being happy are not necessarily connected.  

when i assisted i would laugh all the time at photographers because they were always complaining.  the client is so conservative, the account exec. doesn&#039;t have the guts to stand up to the client, the stylist assistant showing up 20 minutes late, the agency doesn&#039;t have their stuff together, they don&#039;t have the money to shoot this layout, the AD wants to fill the frame with the product, the agency just wants numbers, we revised the estimate four times and they are going with another shooter...

then i began standing behind the camera and felt the pressure that goes with pulling a shoot off...  and guess what, i find myself complaining.  would i choose something else to pay the bills? never.  but jaded i am.  besides the pressure, so many jobs have gone to the wind and the shooter down the street that when one hits it&#039;s actually quite a surprise.  then there is the constant reaching to be so much more of a photographer, (but that&#039;s an entire other planet.)

i don&#039;t think anyone would classify me as unhappy, but if asked if i were content i would have to say, no.  now, if the poll asked how many photographers would want another job, then i bet the results would be much different.

(love the blog)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is interesting to see how many of these comments link a photographers happiness to money and the amount of work they have.  (yes, i know a few didn&#8217;t)  </p>
<p>but making money and being happy are not necessarily connected.  </p>
<p>when i assisted i would laugh all the time at photographers because they were always complaining.  the client is so conservative, the account exec. doesn&#8217;t have the guts to stand up to the client, the stylist assistant showing up 20 minutes late, the agency doesn&#8217;t have their stuff together, they don&#8217;t have the money to shoot this layout, the AD wants to fill the frame with the product, the agency just wants numbers, we revised the estimate four times and they are going with another shooter&#8230;</p>
<p>then i began standing behind the camera and felt the pressure that goes with pulling a shoot off&#8230;  and guess what, i find myself complaining.  would i choose something else to pay the bills? never.  but jaded i am.  besides the pressure, so many jobs have gone to the wind and the shooter down the street that when one hits it&#8217;s actually quite a surprise.  then there is the constant reaching to be so much more of a photographer, (but that&#8217;s an entire other planet.)</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t think anyone would classify me as unhappy, but if asked if i were content i would have to say, no.  now, if the poll asked how many photographers would want another job, then i bet the results would be much different.</p>
<p>(love the blog)</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Broening</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3822</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Broening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thomasbroening.blogspot.com/2007/09/complaining-complainers-complaining.html</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Farkas</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3820</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Farkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happier now more than ever. After listening to all the &quot;happy&quot; shooters extol their joy even though their clients are jerks and they are working their ass off more than ever just to buy a can of Alpo. Man, I got it good! My clients have me send an invoice in before the job even starts shooting to be beat the system, they pay my rates and generally pay on time. Sure I could use more work, who couldn&#039;t? I also don&#039;t need much, my ship is pretty tight. Sure I wish Santa would drop a sleigh full of Profoto&#039;s under the tree and a H3 while he&#039;s at it but I got what I need. The glass is 1/2 full on this end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happier now more than ever. After listening to all the &#8220;happy&#8221; shooters extol their joy even though their clients are jerks and they are working their ass off more than ever just to buy a can of Alpo. Man, I got it good! My clients have me send an invoice in before the job even starts shooting to be beat the system, they pay my rates and generally pay on time. Sure I could use more work, who couldn&#8217;t? I also don&#8217;t need much, my ship is pretty tight. Sure I wish Santa would drop a sleigh full of Profoto&#8217;s under the tree and a H3 while he&#8217;s at it but I got what I need. The glass is 1/2 full on this end.</p>
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		<title>By: sears photographer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator>sears photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course we&#039;re unhappy 
this is a terrible time of a year to be a portrait photographer 
gobs of crying kids and stressed parents
and then to have someone like jill greenberg move in and get praise for  shooting crying kids
bah humbug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course we&#8217;re unhappy<br />
this is a terrible time of a year to be a portrait photographer<br />
gobs of crying kids and stressed parents<br />
and then to have someone like jill greenberg move in and get praise for  shooting crying kids<br />
bah humbug</p>
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		<title>By: happy photographer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3816</link>
		<dc:creator>happy photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s see.. i don&#039;t make a ton money. i have a lot of crappy clients that don&#039;t pay well.. i work my arse off.  but every morning i wake up doing what i love. i don&#039;t have to answer to anyone but myself and i&#039;m making a nice living. so i think it all has to do with the individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s see.. i don&#8217;t make a ton money. i have a lot of crappy clients that don&#8217;t pay well.. i work my arse off.  but every morning i wake up doing what i love. i don&#8217;t have to answer to anyone but myself and i&#8217;m making a nice living. so i think it all has to do with the individual.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3814</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come to think of it, they probably got the photographer category by polling Time Inc. freelancers.</description>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gimme a friggin break. They pulled this outta their collective Time Inc. ass.

Maybe the photographers they polled were Sears Portrait studio employees and those polaroid guys near the passport office on Hudson Street.  The only thing believable in that article was that amusement park attendees are miserable.  This is true.

I&#039;d say Time Magazine poller must rank pretty low too, unless they are getting the Time Inc employee benefits.  Time Inc is so cheap, they&#039;re probably sending out unpaid interns to do the dirty work.

Click on the &quot;personal assistants&quot; category and the bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale.  I&#039;ve never met a personal assistant who was genuinely happy.  Not a one.

Let&#039;s just see how low &quot;Time Magazine Freelancer&quot; ranks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gimme a friggin break. They pulled this outta their collective Time Inc. ass.</p>
<p>Maybe the photographers they polled were Sears Portrait studio employees and those polaroid guys near the passport office on Hudson Street.  The only thing believable in that article was that amusement park attendees are miserable.  This is true.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say Time Magazine poller must rank pretty low too, unless they are getting the Time Inc employee benefits.  Time Inc is so cheap, they&#8217;re probably sending out unpaid interns to do the dirty work.</p>
<p>Click on the &#8220;personal assistants&#8221; category and the bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale.  I&#8217;ve never met a personal assistant who was genuinely happy.  Not a one.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just see how low &#8220;Time Magazine Freelancer&#8221; ranks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3810</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That is a bit different to what was printed in the Australian/New Zealand version of Time. I actually wrote about this on my blog just the other day and the A/NZ version of Time placed photographers between Designers and Phone Operators and about half way down the index.

Read it http://www.thomaspickard.com/pixelpost/?p=359</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That is a bit different to what was printed in the Australian/New Zealand version of Time. I actually wrote about this on my blog just the other day and the A/NZ version of Time placed photographers between Designers and Phone Operators and about half way down the index.</p>
<p>Read it <a href="http://www.thomaspickard.com/pixelpost/?p=359" rel="nofollow">http://www.thomaspickard.com/pixelpost/?p=359</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - Yeah, I see it as a real double edged sword.  The more you are invested emotionally in your work the better it can be but also the more it cuts you down when people don&#039;t love it as-is.  One you become thick skinned and step back from your commercial work the quality can suffer.  A big part of being professional is to blend the two thus staying happy while performing your &quot;A&quot; game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; Yeah, I see it as a real double edged sword.  The more you are invested emotionally in your work the better it can be but also the more it cuts you down when people don&#8217;t love it as-is.  One you become thick skinned and step back from your commercial work the quality can suffer.  A big part of being professional is to blend the two thus staying happy while performing your &#8220;A&#8221; game.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops... should say &quot;had a very hard time with the way magazines dealt with his photo essays.&quot; 

One of the perks of the &quot;lifestyle&quot; I mentioned, is I played hockey this morning, and my tired arms and hands are having a tough time  with typing. Am I happy, how could I not be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230; should say &#8220;had a very hard time with the way magazines dealt with his photo essays.&#8221; </p>
<p>One of the perks of the &#8220;lifestyle&#8221; I mentioned, is I played hockey this morning, and my tired arms and hands are having a tough time  with typing. Am I happy, how could I not be?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3789</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce @15 - That reminds me of W. Eugene Smith. He seemed to be very unhappy, and had a very hard time when his the way magazines dealt with his photo essays.

Personally, I&#039;m beyond needing validation from my work to be happy. Am I more enlightened? Doubtful. Maybe I&#039;m just not as dedicated. Or perhaps I&#039;ve been able to separate the photography I do for me, and only for me, from the work I do that has to please others. I get asked frequently if it&#039;s okay to change something, or crop the image in a certain way. My response is always, &quot;do what you want&quot; (as long as I get paid). The photography I do on assignment is only a piece of the whole, and some of it I simply wouldn&#039;t do if I was independently wealthy. I enjoy it, but I&#039;d rather do more personal work.

The biggest thing about photography for me is being independent, self-employed, and maintaining the lifestyle I envision. As long as I do that, I&#039;m happy.

Michael @20 - good to see you here. Funny thing about the manual labor is that housekeepers are right at the top. What does that say? Perhaps they see on a daily basis how much of a difference there work makes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce @15 &#8211; That reminds me of W. Eugene Smith. He seemed to be very unhappy, and had a very hard time when his the way magazines dealt with his photo essays.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m beyond needing validation from my work to be happy. Am I more enlightened? Doubtful. Maybe I&#8217;m just not as dedicated. Or perhaps I&#8217;ve been able to separate the photography I do for me, and only for me, from the work I do that has to please others. I get asked frequently if it&#8217;s okay to change something, or crop the image in a certain way. My response is always, &#8220;do what you want&#8221; (as long as I get paid). The photography I do on assignment is only a piece of the whole, and some of it I simply wouldn&#8217;t do if I was independently wealthy. I enjoy it, but I&#8217;d rather do more personal work.</p>
<p>The biggest thing about photography for me is being independent, self-employed, and maintaining the lifestyle I envision. As long as I do that, I&#8217;m happy.</p>
<p>Michael @20 &#8211; good to see you here. Funny thing about the manual labor is that housekeepers are right at the top. What does that say? Perhaps they see on a daily basis how much of a difference there work makes.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2007/12/14/are-photographers-unhappy/comment-page-1/#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree w/ #24, while it is great to have the freedom to do what you want; I love collaborating with gifted creatives and solving problems.</description>
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