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	<title>Comments on: Slideshow needs to be fixed</title>
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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-16470</link>
		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to figure out what&#039;s what. I&#039;m a bit late to the discussion, sorry.

I checked out the pool and the first photo I viewed was by Sam Jones. It appeared in the January 2007 issue of Time Magazine. Jones also directed the film &quot;I am trying to break your heart&quot; about Wilco. 

Not quite sure what you were looking for here. Selecting work by people whose image style everyone is already familiar with seems like a simple enough task. 

Was this a contest for pro photographers who already have extensive portfolios? It&#039;s a bit confusing. You said you&#039;d hire the people whose photos are in the pool, and somewhere else you said you wouldn&#039;t hire anyone who&#039;s not already a pro because you have to be sure they&#039;re reliable. So is the pool made up entirely of pros? Was Flickr just the distribution device? 
 
Maybe all this has been asked and answered somewhere. If so I apologize. If someone could point me to a concise explanation of the submission guidelines I&#039;d appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to figure out what&#8217;s what. I&#8217;m a bit late to the discussion, sorry.</p>
<p>I checked out the pool and the first photo I viewed was by Sam Jones. It appeared in the January 2007 issue of Time Magazine. Jones also directed the film &#8220;I am trying to break your heart&#8221; about Wilco. </p>
<p>Not quite sure what you were looking for here. Selecting work by people whose image style everyone is already familiar with seems like a simple enough task. </p>
<p>Was this a contest for pro photographers who already have extensive portfolios? It&#8217;s a bit confusing. You said you&#8217;d hire the people whose photos are in the pool, and somewhere else you said you wouldn&#8217;t hire anyone who&#8217;s not already a pro because you have to be sure they&#8217;re reliable. So is the pool made up entirely of pros? Was Flickr just the distribution device? </p>
<p>Maybe all this has been asked and answered somewhere. If so I apologize. If someone could point me to a concise explanation of the submission guidelines I&#8217;d appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Gibb</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-16455</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Gibb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit behind over here - I noticed the flickr pool is unavailable (even when I&#039;m signed in on flickr), so I can&#039;t check to see if my submission made it or not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit behind over here &#8211; I noticed the flickr pool is unavailable (even when I&#8217;m signed in on flickr), so I can&#8217;t check to see if my submission made it or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exigency</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exigency</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-16125</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the refinement of the edit. Let&#039;s talk about describing the whole edit as articulate critics, shall we, sans the egos, bruised or pride stricken. Couple of words for starters, : here&#039;s mine:Constructed Opportunity. Not necessarily photo journalistic but certainly atmospherically consistent. Basically, put your self there and open your eyes. Awesome take rob. thanks for your generosity of organization, Rob&#039;s domain du jour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the refinement of the edit. Let&#8217;s talk about describing the whole edit as articulate critics, shall we, sans the egos, bruised or pride stricken. Couple of words for starters, : here&#8217;s mine:Constructed Opportunity. Not necessarily photo journalistic but certainly atmospherically consistent. Basically, put your self there and open your eyes. Awesome take rob. thanks for your generosity of organization, Rob&#8217;s domain du jour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hershey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Hershey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good thing for me , is that Rob&#039;s promotion offer got me off the couch! He mentioned sending fresh work , not images that already exist... I went out and shot two personal projects for myself that I&#039;d been planning.. the deadline created the fire or fear or whatever the hell you want to call it.... It was raining the morning (Sunday) the day before the deadline but I went ahead with the shoot anyway and the rain was a gift. I do not know if I made the cut since I can only view a small portion of the final cut .. But the best thing for me was just getting out with my camera and making pictures for myself!

Thanks Rob.. And to all of you who had the courage to participate. I look forward to seeing the &quot;final final&quot; so to speak. I&#039;m sure Rob will let us know when it&#039;s &quot;fixed&quot;.

Bruce Hershey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good thing for me , is that Rob&#8217;s promotion offer got me off the couch! He mentioned sending fresh work , not images that already exist&#8230; I went out and shot two personal projects for myself that I&#8217;d been planning.. the deadline created the fire or fear or whatever the hell you want to call it&#8230;. It was raining the morning (Sunday) the day before the deadline but I went ahead with the shoot anyway and the rain was a gift. I do not know if I made the cut since I can only view a small portion of the final cut .. But the best thing for me was just getting out with my camera and making pictures for myself!</p>
<p>Thanks Rob.. And to all of you who had the courage to participate. I look forward to seeing the &#8220;final final&#8221; so to speak. I&#8217;m sure Rob will let us know when it&#8217;s &#8220;fixed&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bruce Hershey</p>
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		<title>By: C. Kurt Holter</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Kurt Holter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been a photographer for over 30 years, I realize that there&#039;s not always a correlation between ability to shoot great images and ability to make a sustained living in this business.

I&#039;ve been more fortunate at the latter than the former.

Having my two shots accepted into this pool is the most flattering piece of professional validation I&#039;ve had since I originally got my first job as a newspaper staff photographer in 1976.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a photographer for over 30 years, I realize that there&#8217;s not always a correlation between ability to shoot great images and ability to make a sustained living in this business.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been more fortunate at the latter than the former.</p>
<p>Having my two shots accepted into this pool is the most flattering piece of professional validation I&#8217;ve had since I originally got my first job as a newspaper staff photographer in 1976.</p>
<p>Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Eager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Eager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a chance to look thru aphotoeditor pool and there are so many really amazing images!  Thank you Rob for making another valuable resource available to the photo community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a chance to look thru aphotoeditor pool and there are so many really amazing images!  Thank you Rob for making another valuable resource available to the photo community.</p>
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		<title>By: gogg</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15992</link>
		<dc:creator>gogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great that you do this Rob, a lot of very good work. Congratulation to the selected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that you do this Rob, a lot of very good work. Congratulation to the selected.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15964</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheese and rice, there is more moaning going on here than a fight between a palestinian and a jew over who started the conflict.

if you didn&#039;t get in, move on and shut up and work out why.

ffsake people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheese and rice, there is more moaning going on here than a fight between a palestinian and a jew over who started the conflict.</p>
<p>if you didn&#8217;t get in, move on and shut up and work out why.</p>
<p>ffsake people.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15948</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>61 amen, 

Jim that&#039;s a fine looking blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>61 amen, </p>
<p>Jim that&#8217;s a fine looking blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Newberry</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Newberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s some mighty fine work up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some mighty fine work up there.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Goodenough</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15946</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Goodenough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well! I can say that what I submitted doesn&#039;t look ANYTHING LIKE anything else that made it in. 
I suppose the job for us was to submit what we thought would get us work shooting for magazines? But what magazines? 
It&#039;s slightly clearer to me why magazine work has not been much a part of my career! 
My knee-jerk was to submit something I could see being published from my available stock.
Fascinating experiment and fun to follow.
Thanks all - &amp; Rob,
Chuck
Who wants to start a &quot;rejected&quot; pool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well! I can say that what I submitted doesn&#8217;t look ANYTHING LIKE anything else that made it in.<br />
I suppose the job for us was to submit what we thought would get us work shooting for magazines? But what magazines?<br />
It&#8217;s slightly clearer to me why magazine work has not been much a part of my career!<br />
My knee-jerk was to submit something I could see being published from my available stock.<br />
Fascinating experiment and fun to follow.<br />
Thanks all &#8211; &amp; Rob,<br />
Chuck<br />
Who wants to start a &#8220;rejected&#8221; pool?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15944</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Heath Ledger dead?he looks pretty young in that pic,
i thought we were suppose to submit just &quot;fresh&quot; work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Heath Ledger dead?he looks pretty young in that pic,<br />
i thought we were suppose to submit just &#8220;fresh&#8221; work.</p>
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		<title>By: blake</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15943</link>
		<dc:creator>blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buncha whiners on here.  my pics weren&#039;t selected.  maybe i selected the wrong 2 images.  maybe i suck.  maybe 1 photo editor in the world of 10,000 photo editors doesnt dig my work.

am i gonna quit?  fuck no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buncha whiners on here.  my pics weren&#8217;t selected.  maybe i selected the wrong 2 images.  maybe i suck.  maybe 1 photo editor in the world of 10,000 photo editors doesnt dig my work.</p>
<p>am i gonna quit?  fuck no.</p>
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		<title>By: el cinemascapisto</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15925</link>
		<dc:creator>el cinemascapisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please only submit fresh work. I’ve looked at all of your websites (yes, all of them) and really only want to see new work.&quot;

I&#039;m sure there was some exaggeration in that statement, but I wonder how many, without hesitating, chose their newest images as opposed to their most popular or personal favorite? Timing was good for me, I happened to like my 2 latest images.

I also wonder if APE was SERIOUS about seeing &quot;ALL&quot; of our sites, that if he knew the submission was old (no matter the artist name and notoriety), he declined it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please only submit fresh work. I’ve looked at all of your websites (yes, all of them) and really only want to see new work.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there was some exaggeration in that statement, but I wonder how many, without hesitating, chose their newest images as opposed to their most popular or personal favorite? Timing was good for me, I happened to like my 2 latest images.</p>
<p>I also wonder if APE was SERIOUS about seeing &#8220;ALL&#8221; of our sites, that if he knew the submission was old (no matter the artist name and notoriety), he declined it?</p>
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		<title>By: Philip James</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15924</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to say as a positive after my unwarranted and mistaken negativity yesterday, the hit rate at my site has soared at least a 1000% today after inclusion in Robs slideshow. If it produces the same response when it goes live to art directors then the members included will benefit enormously. Brilliant!! Compliments to Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to say as a positive after my unwarranted and mistaken negativity yesterday, the hit rate at my site has soared at least a 1000% today after inclusion in Robs slideshow. If it produces the same response when it goes live to art directors then the members included will benefit enormously. Brilliant!! Compliments to Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks Ayola</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15922</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooks Ayola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not making the cut was a lesson in my own relevance. It was eye opening to say the least. Either that, or I over-thought it and just picked the wrong two images. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not making the cut was a lesson in my own relevance. It was eye opening to say the least. Either that, or I over-thought it and just picked the wrong two images. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Arienfae</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>Arienfae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob! There is a really great mix of images in there. Thank you for all your hard work and services to the photographic community!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob! There is a really great mix of images in there. Thank you for all your hard work and services to the photographic community!</p>
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		<title>By: hughcmhamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15919</link>
		<dc:creator>hughcmhamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really happy happy to be in, but I never expected to be....but that said, I think most of the work is great and I&#039;m very happy to be in such good company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy happy to be in, but I never expected to be&#8230;.but that said, I think most of the work is great and I&#8217;m very happy to be in such good company.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15916</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you put Rob, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Terry Richardson, Richard Avedon, and Can Evgin in a room,&quot;

crikey - now a picture of that would surely make the edit somewhere.....

APE, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Evgin, the T-Bone and Avedon&#039;s dried and rotten corpse, poring over our photos.......

RDP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you put Rob, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Terry Richardson, Richard Avedon, and Can Evgin in a room,&#8221;</p>
<p>crikey &#8211; now a picture of that would surely make the edit somewhere&#8230;..</p>
<p>APE, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Evgin, the T-Bone and Avedon&#8217;s dried and rotten corpse, poring over our photos&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>RDP</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Sciorio</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15912</link>
		<dc:creator>Giulio Sciorio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG there&#039;s some butthurt photographers here. 

My work was not selected. I&#039;m still breathing, still shooting. Rob&#039;s doing something pretty damn cool. If he&#039;s not feeling what you submitted then so be it. Try again in the future.

Thicken your skin folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG there&#8217;s some butthurt photographers here. </p>
<p>My work was not selected. I&#8217;m still breathing, still shooting. Rob&#8217;s doing something pretty damn cool. If he&#8217;s not feeling what you submitted then so be it. Try again in the future.</p>
<p>Thicken your skin folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Renée Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renée Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, Thanks so much for including me in the final cut. Cheers!
Renée Jacobs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, Thanks so much for including me in the final cut. Cheers!<br />
Renée Jacobs</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have experience doing this. I judged the PDN photography annual one year. When judging you are less critical of the work at the beginning and the end and it can make the edit a bit uneven. That&#039;s why it&#039;s helpful to have other jurors and then in PDN&#039;s case they ultimately make the final selection so they can consider the big picture before approving an image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have experience doing this. I judged the PDN photography annual one year. When judging you are less critical of the work at the beginning and the end and it can make the edit a bit uneven. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s helpful to have other jurors and then in PDN&#8217;s case they ultimately make the final selection so they can consider the big picture before approving an image.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Durham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Durham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have enjoyed the show so far. I look forward to a moment when I have the time to look through all of the images

The comments have also been entertaining.

I pretty sure I did not make the final cut, but rejection is a means of inspiration. So is failure. And so are the images.

Rob - earlier on, I posted that the editing would be &#039;brutal&#039;. I know you are used to sifting through many images, but I had in mind the entire process - from shear numbers to making hard decisions. And then listening to the angst and anger.

I don&#039;t envy your job - which is why I appreciate the work you put into this. 

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed the show so far. I look forward to a moment when I have the time to look through all of the images</p>
<p>The comments have also been entertaining.</p>
<p>I pretty sure I did not make the final cut, but rejection is a means of inspiration. So is failure. And so are the images.</p>
<p>Rob &#8211; earlier on, I posted that the editing would be &#8216;brutal&#8217;. I know you are used to sifting through many images, but I had in mind the entire process &#8211; from shear numbers to making hard decisions. And then listening to the angst and anger.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t envy your job &#8211; which is why I appreciate the work you put into this. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Maki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Maki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I think the site and this contest have been very inspirational since I joined a few months back.  It would be great to begin discussions on solid ways of self advertising / promotions.  The quality of one&#039;s eye seems like only half of the full package these days.  If there is already a section on the site for that, please advise.  Keep up the good work Rob.  

Teddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I think the site and this contest have been very inspirational since I joined a few months back.  It would be great to begin discussions on solid ways of self advertising / promotions.  The quality of one&#8217;s eye seems like only half of the full package these days.  If there is already a section on the site for that, please advise.  Keep up the good work Rob.  </p>
<p>Teddy</p>
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		<title>By: Luke COpping</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15887</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke COpping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think as artists, professionals, and creatives we are all forgetting one thing; and that is that all art is subjective. 

This started out as an experiment for Rob to try and provide a service to others and he got a large response to his offer. Naturally, not everyone can make the cut, these 550 images were edited down by one man with only his own point of view to go by from over 2600. And that is my main point, Rob is one man, with his own ideas about what makes a photograph good or bad (though with years of professional experience he probably does have a better eye than most for editing). If you put Rob, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Terry Richardson, Richard Avedon, and Can Evgin in a room, and charged each one of them with editing down this exact same group of 2600 photos to 500, you would end up with 6 very different edits, and each would be as valid and worthwhile as the others, they would merely have been tempered by different viewpoints and factors of personal taste. 

Another thing we are all forgetting is that this is ROB&#039;s blog. he runs the show, and his name is attached to this slideshow just as much as the contributing photographers. And we can expect nothing less than for him to make these decisions based on his own taste and preferences so that this selection and slideshow represents him as an editor. 

To address the unprofessional attitude I have seen here among many of my peers let me say that starting a dialogue and discussion is a positive thing, but when that dialogue devolves into petty insults and baiting it loses all of its validity. 

Furthermore, to distance yourself from a contest or publication you have submitted to and were rejected by (even if only a single iteration of said contest) by claiming to be too good and talented to be lumped in with what you say is mediocre and boring work is a disservice to all the other photographers who submitted their work, but also a disservice to yourself. If you are so confident in your talent and your work than you should learn to either a) learn to handle rejection with some damn dignity, rather than insulting those that did make it. b) not have submitted to the pool in the first place if you had doubts about the level of work that you thought would be represented. c) not submitted to the pool if you had doubts about your own ability to handle rejection.  

My image was not accepted to the pool, and that is fine, I will try again next time and I will try doubly as hard. I also send promos out constantly, sometimes with returned interest, sometimes without. But I don&#039;t go writing letters to Rolling Stone and Vogue about how boring their images are and how I was glad to be rejected so that my work would not be presented alongside inferior images. 

I did not personally like many of the images in the final edit, and some i thought were beautiful and absolutely cutting edge.
Some were great and some were not - but that is just my opinion, and this edit is Rob&#039;s opinion. 

Stop whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think as artists, professionals, and creatives we are all forgetting one thing; and that is that all art is subjective. </p>
<p>This started out as an experiment for Rob to try and provide a service to others and he got a large response to his offer. Naturally, not everyone can make the cut, these 550 images were edited down by one man with only his own point of view to go by from over 2600. And that is my main point, Rob is one man, with his own ideas about what makes a photograph good or bad (though with years of professional experience he probably does have a better eye than most for editing). If you put Rob, Rodney Smith, Nick Knight, Terry Richardson, Richard Avedon, and Can Evgin in a room, and charged each one of them with editing down this exact same group of 2600 photos to 500, you would end up with 6 very different edits, and each would be as valid and worthwhile as the others, they would merely have been tempered by different viewpoints and factors of personal taste. </p>
<p>Another thing we are all forgetting is that this is ROB&#8217;s blog. he runs the show, and his name is attached to this slideshow just as much as the contributing photographers. And we can expect nothing less than for him to make these decisions based on his own taste and preferences so that this selection and slideshow represents him as an editor. </p>
<p>To address the unprofessional attitude I have seen here among many of my peers let me say that starting a dialogue and discussion is a positive thing, but when that dialogue devolves into petty insults and baiting it loses all of its validity. </p>
<p>Furthermore, to distance yourself from a contest or publication you have submitted to and were rejected by (even if only a single iteration of said contest) by claiming to be too good and talented to be lumped in with what you say is mediocre and boring work is a disservice to all the other photographers who submitted their work, but also a disservice to yourself. If you are so confident in your talent and your work than you should learn to either a) learn to handle rejection with some damn dignity, rather than insulting those that did make it. b) not have submitted to the pool in the first place if you had doubts about the level of work that you thought would be represented. c) not submitted to the pool if you had doubts about your own ability to handle rejection.  </p>
<p>My image was not accepted to the pool, and that is fine, I will try again next time and I will try doubly as hard. I also send promos out constantly, sometimes with returned interest, sometimes without. But I don&#8217;t go writing letters to Rolling Stone and Vogue about how boring their images are and how I was glad to be rejected so that my work would not be presented alongside inferior images. </p>
<p>I did not personally like many of the images in the final edit, and some i thought were beautiful and absolutely cutting edge.<br />
Some were great and some were not &#8211; but that is just my opinion, and this edit is Rob&#8217;s opinion. </p>
<p>Stop whining.</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15885</link>
		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may create a lite version after fixing the problem but you have to remember this isn&#039;t a contest. It&#039;s a promo opportunity not unlike what happens to art buyers and photo editors every single day when the mail comes in or you open your email. You go through the whole pile no matter what because you want make sure you don&#039;t miss anything. I weeded out the photos I wasn&#039;t interested in because I&#039;m sending it out to art directors and photo editors with my endorsement. It&#039;s not about my personal taste it&#039;s about matching photographers with potential clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may create a lite version after fixing the problem but you have to remember this isn&#8217;t a contest. It&#8217;s a promo opportunity not unlike what happens to art buyers and photo editors every single day when the mail comes in or you open your email. You go through the whole pile no matter what because you want make sure you don&#8217;t miss anything. I weeded out the photos I wasn&#8217;t interested in because I&#8217;m sending it out to art directors and photo editors with my endorsement. It&#8217;s not about my personal taste it&#8217;s about matching photographers with potential clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Aleksander Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15880</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Aleksander Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@55: I think not having categories is good because it allows for student work or experimental (and successful) work to sit next to safe work of so and so celebrity. If they were sequestered, the person looking for a new look on their next celebrity shoot might not find what they&#039;re looking for as easily. But there are arguments for having categories as well... If you&#039;re specifically looking for a food shot, you might not want 8 pages of portraits first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@55: I think not having categories is good because it allows for student work or experimental (and successful) work to sit next to safe work of so and so celebrity. If they were sequestered, the person looking for a new look on their next celebrity shoot might not find what they&#8217;re looking for as easily. But there are arguments for having categories as well&#8230; If you&#8217;re specifically looking for a food shot, you might not want 8 pages of portraits first.</p>
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		<title>By: how many?</title>
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		<dc:creator>how many?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering, how many images total were submitted?</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce Cramer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/04/08/slideshow-needs-to-be-fixed/comment-page-2/#comment-15876</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, You are doing a great job, both with this promotion and the blog in general. The insight, time and effort you put into this is much appreciated. Your sincerity about creating opportunity and change in the industry is clear and refreshing. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, You are doing a great job, both with this promotion and the blog in general. The insight, time and effort you put into this is much appreciated. Your sincerity about creating opportunity and change in the industry is clear and refreshing. Thanks!</p>
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