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		<title>By: Greg-Kaas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg-Kaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brings me to an idea:...</description>
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		<title>By: ADG Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ADG Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
I use photos of aircraft and modified them, thus creating new machines (combining 2 different machines into one); I usually post them in a website for the sole purprose of illustrating discussons of alternative machines.
It&#039;s non commercial, modifies the original work and does not competes with the original work:
Is this a copyright violation or fall under the fair use?
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello<br />
I use photos of aircraft and modified them, thus creating new machines (combining 2 different machines into one); I usually post them in a website for the sole purprose of illustrating discussons of alternative machines.<br />
It&#8217;s non commercial, modifies the original work and does not competes with the original work:<br />
Is this a copyright violation or fall under the fair use?<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: O novo livro de Jonas Bendiksen &#38; mais&#8230; &#171; o elogio da sombra</title>
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		<dc:creator>O novo livro de Jonas Bendiksen &#38; mais&#8230; &#171; o elogio da sombra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fair use of photography on a blog. Uma pequena dissertação sobre o &#8216;fair use&#8217; uma pequena alínea das leis de copyright que permite que pequenas partes do trabalho criativo dos autores/artistas/músicos/etc seja usado para fins de crítica e/ou de divulgação. A linha entre divulgação e apropriação para fins comerciais não é de todo fixa e portanto é de ter algum bom senso e cuidado na divulgação em blogues de trabalhos encontrados na rede. Pedir o acordo dos autores é a situação ideal mas na falta da possibilidade de o conseguir em tempo útil de todos os fotógrafos que pretendo divulgar aqui sigo duas ou três linhas de conduta: a) divulgar sempre o nome do autor das imagens; b) incluir uma hiperligação para o sítio do autor; c) usar uma, no máximo duas imagens. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] Fair use of photography on a blog. Uma pequena dissertação sobre o &#8216;fair use&#8217; uma pequena alínea das leis de copyright que permite que pequenas partes do trabalho criativo dos autores/artistas/músicos/etc seja usado para fins de crítica e/ou de divulgação. A linha entre divulgação e apropriação para fins comerciais não é de todo fixa e portanto é de ter algum bom senso e cuidado na divulgação em blogues de trabalhos encontrados na rede. Pedir o acordo dos autores é a situação ideal mas na falta da possibilidade de o conseguir em tempo útil de todos os fotógrafos que pretendo divulgar aqui sigo duas ou três linhas de conduta: a) divulgar sempre o nome do autor das imagens; b) incluir uma hiperligação para o sítio do autor; c) usar uma, no máximo duas imagens. [...]</div>
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		<title>By: A couple of quick comments &#171; blueollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>A couple of quick comments &#171; blueollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I found guides here (US government) here and here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a composer of music I have the experience of working very hard, sometimes, to create a work that will musically satisfy myself and my audience.  Heck,  I go through a lot of ups and downs composing and then I register my work.

How is it that the model involved in a shoot does&#039;nt deserve to share the copyright or at least get a fair shake, if she uses a non commercial shoot of her image to promote herself?

Does she deserve at least the &quot;Fair Use&quot; protection under the law?  Why is the photographer the only person credited to be the Creator of such a Work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a composer of music I have the experience of working very hard, sometimes, to create a work that will musically satisfy myself and my audience.  Heck,  I go through a lot of ups and downs composing and then I register my work.</p>
<p>How is it that the model involved in a shoot does&#8217;nt deserve to share the copyright or at least get a fair shake, if she uses a non commercial shoot of her image to promote herself?</p>
<p>Does she deserve at least the &#8220;Fair Use&#8221; protection under the law?  Why is the photographer the only person credited to be the Creator of such a Work?</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Copyright Links &#187; Another Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-29436</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Copyright Links &#187; Another Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fair use: the law. Info about fair use of photography. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Coffee is nice &#171; the blackandwhite Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffee is nice &#171; the blackandwhite Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why the big struggle to calculate online usage payments one has to wonder. However, after reading this post from the, how often do I say this always excellent A Photo Editor blog by Rob Haggart, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] why the big struggle to calculate online usage payments one has to wonder. However, after reading this post from the, how often do I say this always excellent A Photo Editor blog by Rob Haggart, [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Bob Croxford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Croxford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA Law
”for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright”

UK Law
Criticism, review and news reporting
(1)
Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement.
(2)
Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement.
(3)
No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme.

In the UK you cannot use news photographs for free under Fair Dealing provisions.

Bob Croxford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA Law<br />
”for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright”</p>
<p>UK Law<br />
Criticism, review and news reporting<br />
(1)<br />
Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement.<br />
(2)<br />
Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement.<br />
(3)<br />
No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, broadcast or cable programme.</p>
<p>In the UK you cannot use news photographs for free under Fair Dealing provisions.</p>
<p>Bob Croxford</p>
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		<title>By: lilburne</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilburne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 I heartily agree.  Already a major outlet for imagery nowadays is the web. Photos are purloined and used to illustrate pages selling almost anything  whether its holidays  or real estate, or simply to provide eye candy to jazz up a page of adverts. Some web pages exist simply to display Google ads and use the purloined work of  others as the draw to the adverts.

I&#039;ve issued a number of take down notices to the above type of sites. I don&#039;t mind some one using my images on their personal blog but not if its rich in Google Ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 I heartily agree.  Already a major outlet for imagery nowadays is the web. Photos are purloined and used to illustrate pages selling almost anything  whether its holidays  or real estate, or simply to provide eye candy to jazz up a page of adverts. Some web pages exist simply to display Google ads and use the purloined work of  others as the draw to the adverts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve issued a number of take down notices to the above type of sites. I don&#8217;t mind some one using my images on their personal blog but not if its rich in Google Ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Phung</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28710</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Phung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that I think bears highlighting in big, bold red lettering is the following:

&lt;strong&gt;Just because something is on the Internet, does NOT make it &quot;in the public domain&quot;!!!&lt;/strong&gt;

This seems to be a bizarre assumption that a lot of people make; at least this is an argument I see all the time justifying the improper use of other people&#039;s photographs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that I think bears highlighting in big, bold red lettering is the following:</p>
<p><strong>Just because something is on the Internet, does NOT make it &#8220;in the public domain&#8221;!!!</strong></p>
<p>This seems to be a bizarre assumption that a lot of people make; at least this is an argument I see all the time justifying the improper use of other people&#8217;s photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: Links - September 12, 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links - September 12, 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Photo Editor has information on what is Fair Use of Photography on a Blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Toepfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Toepfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was finishing photoschool,a fine art/reportage photographer emailed me threatening to sue over using a photograph of his in a blog of mine.  My blog posting was to promote his book. He &quot;made&quot; me take down the posting as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was finishing photoschool,a fine art/reportage photographer emailed me threatening to sue over using a photograph of his in a blog of mine.  My blog posting was to promote his book. He &#8220;made&#8221; me take down the posting as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look at it this way:

4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.”

the effect...is that no one wants to pay for work seen online...

fast forward several years.

online is the major media outlet.

tell me you don&#039;t see this coming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look at it this way:</p>
<p>4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.”</p>
<p>the effect&#8230;is that no one wants to pay for work seen online&#8230;</p>
<p>fast forward several years.</p>
<p>online is the major media outlet.</p>
<p>tell me you don&#8217;t see this coming?</p>
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		<title>By: Take My Photograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Take My Photograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi interesting discussion I found everyones comments useful, its a great inspiration for my own work...

cheers Rob

http://www.takemyphotograph.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi interesting discussion I found everyones comments useful, its a great inspiration for my own work&#8230;</p>
<p>cheers Rob</p>
<p><a href="http://www.takemyphotograph.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.takemyphotograph.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reinfried Marass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reinfried Marass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referring to US-laws only ? ... in a global world ?
Hey ladies, besides Texas there are other count(r)ies too on this planet ... give us a chance *smile

@M.Scott
Unfortunately it&#039;s a very easy task to strip off images (and any content as well) even with flash sites ... so, don&#039;t think you are safe 

best, Reini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring to US-laws only ? &#8230; in a global world ?<br />
Hey ladies, besides Texas there are other count(r)ies too on this planet &#8230; give us a chance *smile</p>
<p>@M.Scott<br />
Unfortunately it&#8217;s a very easy task to strip off images (and any content as well) even with flash sites &#8230; so, don&#8217;t think you are safe </p>
<p>best, Reini</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a photographer, I definitely agree with your understanding of fair use on a weblog. In fact, I did discuss this very point with bloggers willing to use a picture of mine, lately. We got the same conclusions as yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a photographer, I definitely agree with your understanding of fair use on a weblog. In fact, I did discuss this very point with bloggers willing to use a picture of mine, lately. We got the same conclusions as yours.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Rob, thanks for prompting this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Rob, thanks for prompting this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep a blog and use work by photographers on a regular basis. I never seek prior permission, because I don&#039;t think I need to do so based on a common sense reading of the law. There are four criteria for determining fair use, none are legally dispositive in themselves. So the situation is probably more complicated than Rob suggests.  The criteria as laid out by the U.S. Copyright Office are:

&quot;Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

2. the nature of the copyrighted work;

3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and;

4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.&quot;

I make no money off the blog; I use it for purposes of education &amp; criticism, etc.; I never use more than one (or maybe a couple) of images from any photographer&#039;s work (and of course what counts as a work? the series, the photo essay, the individual image?);
and I seriously doubt that anything I show or say on the blog (insightful as my comments always are) will have any effect on the value of the work; to the contrary, I suspect, more chatter can only help most photographers, for whom the basic problem is not that too many folks are noticing their work.

I always try to link directly to the maker&#039;s web site (or sometimes to their gallery representation).  Sometimes that is not possible because there is no such page. I always attribute copyright to the photographer. And, often I email the photographer and tell them I&#039;ve posted on their work. 

All of that said, the first step in any complaint about such issues is a &#039;cease &amp; desist&#039; letter from a lawyer. Were I ever to receive such a letter, I&#039;d simply take the offending image down. The case is then moot. (Although I&#039;d also likely post on having received the letter.) I&#039;ve been keeping the blog for several years and get what to me seems like a ridiculous number of visitors. I&#039;ve never gotten a complaint from a photographer. I have gotten multiple emails thanking me.

For idiosyncratic reasons I wrote a longish post on this topic last spring. You can find it here:

http://politicstheoryphotography.blogspot.com/2008/04/
amy-alkon-christopher-harris-redux.html

Best, Jim Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep a blog and use work by photographers on a regular basis. I never seek prior permission, because I don&#8217;t think I need to do so based on a common sense reading of the law. There are four criteria for determining fair use, none are legally dispositive in themselves. So the situation is probably more complicated than Rob suggests.  The criteria as laid out by the U.S. Copyright Office are:</p>
<p>&#8220;Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:</p>
<p>1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;</p>
<p>2. the nature of the copyrighted work;</p>
<p>3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and;</p>
<p>4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.&#8221;</p>
<p>I make no money off the blog; I use it for purposes of education &amp; criticism, etc.; I never use more than one (or maybe a couple) of images from any photographer&#8217;s work (and of course what counts as a work? the series, the photo essay, the individual image?);<br />
and I seriously doubt that anything I show or say on the blog (insightful as my comments always are) will have any effect on the value of the work; to the contrary, I suspect, more chatter can only help most photographers, for whom the basic problem is not that too many folks are noticing their work.</p>
<p>I always try to link directly to the maker&#8217;s web site (or sometimes to their gallery representation).  Sometimes that is not possible because there is no such page. I always attribute copyright to the photographer. And, often I email the photographer and tell them I&#8217;ve posted on their work. </p>
<p>All of that said, the first step in any complaint about such issues is a &#8216;cease &amp; desist&#8217; letter from a lawyer. Were I ever to receive such a letter, I&#8217;d simply take the offending image down. The case is then moot. (Although I&#8217;d also likely post on having received the letter.) I&#8217;ve been keeping the blog for several years and get what to me seems like a ridiculous number of visitors. I&#8217;ve never gotten a complaint from a photographer. I have gotten multiple emails thanking me.</p>
<p>For idiosyncratic reasons I wrote a longish post on this topic last spring. You can find it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://politicstheoryphotography.blogspot.com/2008/04/" rel="nofollow">http://politicstheoryphotography.blogspot.com/2008/04/</a><br />
amy-alkon-christopher-harris-redux.html</p>
<p>Best, Jim Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: An interesting article on fair use of photographs on blogs&#160;&#124;&#160;Black Shadow Photography</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28613</link>
		<dc:creator>An interesting article on fair use of photographs on blogs&#160;&#124;&#160;Black Shadow Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a great article at http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/ about the fair use of photographs in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] is a great article at <a href="http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/ about" rel="nofollow">http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/ about</a> the fair use of photographs in [...]</div>
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		<title>By: M. Scott Brauer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28611</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Scott Brauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that the lack of metadata is a particularly valid reason not to use a screenshot.  Photoshop&#039;s &quot;Save for Web&quot; feature strips metadata from files.  A lot of people use Save For Web because it makes the files substantially smaller (60kb instead of 200kb).   So, using the actual picture file from a site (which is an impossibility with flash sites, by the by) may not solve the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the lack of metadata is a particularly valid reason not to use a screenshot.  Photoshop&#8217;s &#8220;Save for Web&#8221; feature strips metadata from files.  A lot of people use Save For Web because it makes the files substantially smaller (60kb instead of 200kb).   So, using the actual picture file from a site (which is an impossibility with flash sites, by the by) may not solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: thephotographybiz.com &#187; When does fair use of a photo become copyright infringement?</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28610</link>
		<dc:creator>thephotographybiz.com &#187; When does fair use of a photo become copyright infringement?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suggest you go and join in the discussion right here as its something that isn&#8217;t going to go away anytime [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Attempt to define standards on news quoting in blogs &#171; juud2wordpress - photography</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28607</link>
		<dc:creator>Attempt to define standards on news quoting in blogs &#171; juud2wordpress - photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (added 10.09.2008) Fair Use of Photography On A Blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28606</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

A couple key points:

1. Screenshots exclude metadata such as copyright notice and creator contact information which could potentially make the images into an Orphan Work. I suppose screenshots of an entire web page are fine, otherwise I&#039;d much rather you download from my site so you can include my metadata. 

2. To be considered Fair Use, the commentary or must be  about the photograph itself  NOT about the subject of the photograph. In other words, it&#039;s cool for you to repost one of my photos for a critique of my work - but not cool if a celebrity site posts one of my photos for a story about an actor I shot...

In general I&#039;d probably be cool with any blog post that would benfit me, such as blogs like yours about photography, as long as my metadata isn&#039;t stripped out and I&#039;m properly credited or better yet, if the post links to my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>A couple key points:</p>
<p>1. Screenshots exclude metadata such as copyright notice and creator contact information which could potentially make the images into an Orphan Work. I suppose screenshots of an entire web page are fine, otherwise I&#8217;d much rather you download from my site so you can include my metadata. </p>
<p>2. To be considered Fair Use, the commentary or must be  about the photograph itself  NOT about the subject of the photograph. In other words, it&#8217;s cool for you to repost one of my photos for a critique of my work &#8211; but not cool if a celebrity site posts one of my photos for a story about an actor I shot&#8230;</p>
<p>In general I&#8217;d probably be cool with any blog post that would benfit me, such as blogs like yours about photography, as long as my metadata isn&#8217;t stripped out and I&#8217;m properly credited or better yet, if the post links to my website.</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28599</link>
		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so it sounds like the screenshot is a bad idea because it does leave the image without metadata and I was unaware of the penalty for stripping metadata but I suppose it wouldn&#039;t apply in the case where the picture is a part of a complete webpage. Regardless I think photographers would prefer that the copyright and contact info traveled with the picture where ever it went.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so it sounds like the screenshot is a bad idea because it does leave the image without metadata and I was unaware of the penalty for stripping metadata but I suppose it wouldn&#8217;t apply in the case where the picture is a part of a complete webpage. Regardless I think photographers would prefer that the copyright and contact info traveled with the picture where ever it went.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Haggart on Fair Use and photography &#187; The Assistant&#8217;s Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28597</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Haggart on Fair Use and photography &#187; The Assistant&#8217;s Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] use of photography? Rob Haggart &#8212; one of my favorite photo bloggers &#8212; has put together a pretty good best practices statement on his website. Most of the time, especially if it&#8217;s for personal use, asking permission is all it takes.    [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] use of photography? Rob Haggart &#8212; one of my favorite photo bloggers &#8212; has put together a pretty good best practices statement on his website. Most of the time, especially if it&#8217;s for personal use, asking permission is all it takes.    [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Debra Weiss</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28596</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13 -  See also Myth#3 here:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts

Public Knowledge lists The Association of  College and Research Libraries as one of the groups they work with. The universities and the libraries are avid supporters of Orphan Works legislation. They also have a link to  Creative Commons on their site. Lawrence Lessig is no friend to either copyright or photographers. 

Re: statutory damages - I had a lengthy meeting with Howard Berman&#039;s Chief Counsel on Capital Hill. When I suggested they leave statutory damages alone, she told me that would be impossible as statutory damages is the heart of the legislation.
Howard Berman wrote the bill and introduced in Congress.  I&#039;m going to go with his Chief Counsel and believe her on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13 &#8211;  See also Myth#3 here:<br />
<a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts</a></p>
<p>Public Knowledge lists The Association of  College and Research Libraries as one of the groups they work with. The universities and the libraries are avid supporters of Orphan Works legislation. They also have a link to  Creative Commons on their site. Lawrence Lessig is no friend to either copyright or photographers. </p>
<p>Re: statutory damages &#8211; I had a lengthy meeting with Howard Berman&#8217;s Chief Counsel on Capital Hill. When I suggested they leave statutory damages alone, she told me that would be impossible as statutory damages is the heart of the legislation.<br />
Howard Berman wrote the bill and introduced in Congress.  I&#8217;m going to go with his Chief Counsel and believe her on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Weiss</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28594</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13 -&quot;Registration is virtually assuring that work will not fall into the orphan category. &quot;

Registering your work with the Copyright Office will not assure any such thing. Should the proposed legislation be enacted into law, there will be a minimum of two private databases that photographers will have to register their images with. For all we know there may be many more databases established as this will  conceivably be a huge revenue generator. If someone uses a screeenshot, or scans an image from a magazine, or any other scenario where there is no metadata, having that work registered only at the Copyright Office will not prevent the work from being deemed an orphan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13 -&#8221;Registration is virtually assuring that work will not fall into the orphan category. &#8221;</p>
<p>Registering your work with the Copyright Office will not assure any such thing. Should the proposed legislation be enacted into law, there will be a minimum of two private databases that photographers will have to register their images with. For all we know there may be many more databases established as this will  conceivably be a huge revenue generator. If someone uses a screeenshot, or scans an image from a magazine, or any other scenario where there is no metadata, having that work registered only at the Copyright Office will not prevent the work from being deemed an orphan.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie B-D'A</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/10/fair-use-of-photography-on-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-28592</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie B-D'A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@9 That is inaccurate. The current proposed OW legislation (both bills) would eliminate statutory damages for works which are determined by the courts to be orphaned, and only such work. Registration is virtually assuring that work will not fall into the orphan category. See this from the LOC:
http://www.copyright.gov/docs/regstat031308.html

See also Myth#3 here:
http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9 That is inaccurate. The current proposed OW legislation (both bills) would eliminate statutory damages for works which are determined by the courts to be orphaned, and only such work. Registration is virtually assuring that work will not fall into the orphan category. See this from the LOC:<br />
<a href="http://www.copyright.gov/docs/regstat031308.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.copyright.gov/docs/regstat031308.html</a></p>
<p>See also Myth#3 here:<br />
<a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/ow/myths-and-facts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>emailing photographers - yeah well most of them don&#039;t write back you know...

By the way has someone the email of David Lachapelle - I wanted to write a critical piece on it - I mean his personal email- not the myspace which his assistents use to get models. And don&#039;t bother with his agents email - they are already busy with other creeps then to care about bloggers.

Anway if you pull one image of mine and use just that and include my name and a link to my page I am totally fine with it (metadata or not). You can praise or criticise me I don&#039;t care but link to me and just use one or two images max.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emailing photographers &#8211; yeah well most of them don&#8217;t write back you know&#8230;</p>
<p>By the way has someone the email of David Lachapelle &#8211; I wanted to write a critical piece on it &#8211; I mean his personal email- not the myspace which his assistents use to get models. And don&#8217;t bother with his agents email &#8211; they are already busy with other creeps then to care about bloggers.</p>
<p>Anway if you pull one image of mine and use just that and include my name and a link to my page I am totally fine with it (metadata or not). You can praise or criticise me I don&#8217;t care but link to me and just use one or two images max.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Important &#171; Ground Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Important &#171; Ground Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 10, 2008   APE, has a post up about fair use and blogging. His blog has been an excellent resource for photographers to learn [...]</description>
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