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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Hooman</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-49070</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hooman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: I came upon this after doing a google search for titian media, because my website got a hit from titan media. i track my visits (not with google analytics). Yes, it sounds like a joke or a 22 y/o just-out-of-college pipe dream. But there is in fact a titan media with their own isp and internal servers. they seek photographers. all else is anyone&#039;s guess. but in this economy, it more of a sad prank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: I came upon this after doing a google search for titian media, because my website got a hit from titan media. i track my visits (not with google analytics). Yes, it sounds like a joke or a 22 y/o just-out-of-college pipe dream. But there is in fact a titan media with their own isp and internal servers. they seek photographers. all else is anyone&#8217;s guess. but in this economy, it more of a sad prank</p>
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		<title>By: blahblah</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-39277</link>
		<dc:creator>blahblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys are in over their heads trying to build this travel website without having a clue about the travel model and where people want to travel to. And they are patronizing to boot. Think three-hour interviews with the dumbest questions thrown at you as if you are a 12-year-old who has never traveled anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are in over their heads trying to build this travel website without having a clue about the travel model and where people want to travel to. And they are patronizing to boot. Think three-hour interviews with the dumbest questions thrown at you as if you are a 12-year-old who has never traveled anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: jessifina</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-36927</link>
		<dc:creator>jessifina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4 months later, they&#039;re still in stealth mode. Has anyone applied or learned anything more about this job offer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 months later, they&#8217;re still in stealth mode. Has anyone applied or learned anything more about this job offer?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-36329</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened with this Titan Media job? Did anyone ever get hired or do go through the actual 10 day &quot;test&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened with this Titan Media job? Did anyone ever get hired or do go through the actual 10 day &#8220;test&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: EricF.</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-30547</link>
		<dc:creator>EricF.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Photo Ed, maybe a follow-up?

Did anyone ever discover what this job listing was all about?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Photo Ed, maybe a follow-up?</p>
<p>Did anyone ever discover what this job listing was all about?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-30187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s smoke blowing from their asses - more the contact high that comes with being out of touch with reality. A quick and dirty online search will show you some history. Pass the dutchie, mon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s smoke blowing from their asses &#8211; more the contact high that comes with being out of touch with reality. A quick and dirty online search will show you some history. Pass the dutchie, mon.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29596</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you are missing the point. 

Imagine the state of literature if all authors became copy-writers and you get a glimpse into the current world of photography. The comments in regards to this job post are a testament to this Vonnegutian situation. What about those old provincial concerns of ethics, truth, journalism, and documentary vision? What about the legacies of Rob Capa, Cartier-Bresson, Eddie Adams etc.. I&#039;m not suggesting that this job-post or the resulting jobs will present a viable or comprehensive solution, but it sounds sexy as hell - much better than pandering to advertisers. Frankly, traveling the world with a camera for an editor who has some balls has always been my dream. I hope that E Seidman and Susannah put me to the test and drop me into some foreign neighborhood where I don&#039;t speak the language so that I can wonder the streets and document my reality. Alas, if chosen for a position I may have to cut down on my weekly latte count in order to afford to live on $45,000 for roughly 165 days of living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you are missing the point. </p>
<p>Imagine the state of literature if all authors became copy-writers and you get a glimpse into the current world of photography. The comments in regards to this job post are a testament to this Vonnegutian situation. What about those old provincial concerns of ethics, truth, journalism, and documentary vision? What about the legacies of Rob Capa, Cartier-Bresson, Eddie Adams etc.. I&#8217;m not suggesting that this job-post or the resulting jobs will present a viable or comprehensive solution, but it sounds sexy as hell &#8211; much better than pandering to advertisers. Frankly, traveling the world with a camera for an editor who has some balls has always been my dream. I hope that E Seidman and Susannah put me to the test and drop me into some foreign neighborhood where I don&#8217;t speak the language so that I can wonder the streets and document my reality. Alas, if chosen for a position I may have to cut down on my weekly latte count in order to afford to live on $45,000 for roughly 165 days of living.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29579</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I understand.

Am I supposed to go to a neighborhood in NYC and work the scene to make a bunch of meaningful photos, as well as spend a lot of time lighting and working an interior of a building, JUST so that I can be considered for this job?

I sure as hell am not going to go through all that effort to apply for a job with a company that doesn&#039;t even exist yet, not to mention does not specify what exactly I am applying for.

What&#039;s wrong with my current portfolio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand.</p>
<p>Am I supposed to go to a neighborhood in NYC and work the scene to make a bunch of meaningful photos, as well as spend a lot of time lighting and working an interior of a building, JUST so that I can be considered for this job?</p>
<p>I sure as hell am not going to go through all that effort to apply for a job with a company that doesn&#8217;t even exist yet, not to mention does not specify what exactly I am applying for.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with my current portfolio?</p>
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		<title>By: allencraig</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29545</link>
		<dc:creator>allencraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photojournalism is not a desk job, people.
 
If someone is willing to pay you 45k to travel the world, exploring different cultures, taking photos and using the best equipment and you don&#039;t realize it as an amazing opportunity, then go back to your photo editing job at Cosmo and stop dreaming of seeing the world. Jeez.

That said, &quot;titan media and technology&quot; is touting a lot of crap with their posting and asking people to expend a lot of energy just to be considered, so chances are these guys are blowing at least a bit of smoke out of their asses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photojournalism is not a desk job, people.</p>
<p>If someone is willing to pay you 45k to travel the world, exploring different cultures, taking photos and using the best equipment and you don&#8217;t realize it as an amazing opportunity, then go back to your photo editing job at Cosmo and stop dreaming of seeing the world. Jeez.</p>
<p>That said, &#8220;titan media and technology&#8221; is touting a lot of crap with their posting and asking people to expend a lot of energy just to be considered, so chances are these guys are blowing at least a bit of smoke out of their asses.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29521</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this sounds amazing.....and will apply.  I just saw this so I hope I still have a chance.  Thanks so much for posting. As far as everyone else, I dont personally know any photographers that make more than that, so you guys are giving me hope, but also kind of making me rethink where I am going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this sounds amazing&#8230;..and will apply.  I just saw this so I hope I still have a chance.  Thanks so much for posting. As far as everyone else, I dont personally know any photographers that make more than that, so you guys are giving me hope, but also kind of making me rethink where I am going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29517</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just graduated from Columbia after several years of shooting stock/going to school FT and think that this is a great opportunity. And yes, 200 paid travel days would definitely leave a lot aside to pay down student loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just graduated from Columbia after several years of shooting stock/going to school FT and think that this is a great opportunity. And yes, 200 paid travel days would definitely leave a lot aside to pay down student loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29451</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok E, I sent her an email. Hope this works out..looks like a  fun time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok E, I sent her an email. Hope this works out..looks like a  fun time!</p>
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		<title>By: anons</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29428</link>
		<dc:creator>anons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok complain about the 45k/yr but, you aren&#039;t even home 200 days/yr to spend any of it.   200 travels days w/ your expenses being paid I think would mean a lot of that 45k can just go straight to your savings acct...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok complain about the 45k/yr but, you aren&#8217;t even home 200 days/yr to spend any of it.   200 travels days w/ your expenses being paid I think would mean a lot of that 45k can just go straight to your savings acct&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E Seidman</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29403</link>
		<dc:creator>E Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike J - 

Please contact Susannah for clarification.

Thanks,

ES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike J &#8211; </p>
<p>Please contact Susannah for clarification.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>ES</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29394</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking for a bit of clarification in terms of the portfolio requirements:

Am I supposed to go to one building and take a bunch of interior/exterior shots or can I submit a portfolio with images from different buildings?


Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking for a bit of clarification in terms of the portfolio requirements:</p>
<p>Am I supposed to go to one building and take a bunch of interior/exterior shots or can I submit a portfolio with images from different buildings?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry M Perez</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29345</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry M Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they want to pay and experienced photographer who is responsible the entry level rate @ 45K which after NY city and state tax is a whole lot of nothing. .

p.s E Seidman

i worked at conde nast after graduation and it was starting 50k. your looking for someone who already can be efficient and accountable to work for nothing.
my loans STILL to this day are $1200 each month, not including rent, and other vital expenses.  you can continue to outsourse your rates and keep lowing photo rates
WE LOVE THAT
of course you can always find someone to do things cheaper.
it keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, soon people are going to refuse to pay in exchange for career favors.  .   wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they want to pay and experienced photographer who is responsible the entry level rate @ 45K which after NY city and state tax is a whole lot of nothing. .</p>
<p>p.s E Seidman</p>
<p>i worked at conde nast after graduation and it was starting 50k. your looking for someone who already can be efficient and accountable to work for nothing.<br />
my loans STILL to this day are $1200 each month, not including rent, and other vital expenses.  you can continue to outsourse your rates and keep lowing photo rates<br />
WE LOVE THAT<br />
of course you can always find someone to do things cheaper.<br />
it keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, soon people are going to refuse to pay in exchange for career favors.  .   wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29280</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds pretty kickass to me. Just applied.

Thanks Rob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty kickass to me. Just applied.</p>
<p>Thanks Rob!</p>
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		<title>By: Rosh</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29242</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised (or maybe not) so many photographers are being so negative about this opportunity.  I like to travel,  I get along with others, specialize in interior/exterior photography with a background in photojournalism.  This would be be perfect for me, if it was 10 years ago.

The average photographer makes about $25,000 and I&#039;m sure would love to travel.

Fortunately, I&#039;m already doing all these things and, yes, I make much more.  But, I also know a lot of photographers who would love a consistent paycheck and new opportunities.  


Rosh
http://www.newmediaphotographer.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised (or maybe not) so many photographers are being so negative about this opportunity.  I like to travel,  I get along with others, specialize in interior/exterior photography with a background in photojournalism.  This would be be perfect for me, if it was 10 years ago.</p>
<p>The average photographer makes about $25,000 and I&#8217;m sure would love to travel.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I&#8217;m already doing all these things and, yes, I make much more.  But, I also know a lot of photographers who would love a consistent paycheck and new opportunities.  </p>
<p>Rosh<br />
<a href="http://www.newmediaphotographer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newmediaphotographer.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: BobBlack</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29146</link>
		<dc:creator>BobBlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photo-Editor/all:

Long time reader/lurker (got enough stuff to write on another well-thumbed blog)...

gotta tell ya&#039;ll that as a real photographer and writer, with a son and wife (also a photographer) pitching against the ever shifting tide of solvency, i gotta tell u that at first inspection, i would ABSOLUTELY be willing to sniff this beauty out. $45,000 + travel is a lifetime&#039;s fortune in most of the world and more denaro that I could possibly (or have) clammed together even after getting some kick ass reviews and publishing shit...

I totally dont get the others cynicism...ya&#039;ll, i live in an expensive city (Toronto) and am raising a family on a lot lot less than $45,000 and still managing to do work, write, penny-pinch my own projects...for shows and for books...

I think PhotoEditors post deserves accolades...the more the biz helps one another out (particularly those who&#039;ve lined their lives with the good fortune of luck and connection) the better and richer (spiritually) and more challenging and challenged we&#039;ll all be...

What a cool opportunity and what a great gesture that APhotoEditor and this blog offers....

I hope some of y&#039;all can manage to scrape this and turn it into something substantial.

Thanks Photo Editor :))

cheers
bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photo-Editor/all:</p>
<p>Long time reader/lurker (got enough stuff to write on another well-thumbed blog)&#8230;</p>
<p>gotta tell ya&#8217;ll that as a real photographer and writer, with a son and wife (also a photographer) pitching against the ever shifting tide of solvency, i gotta tell u that at first inspection, i would ABSOLUTELY be willing to sniff this beauty out. $45,000 + travel is a lifetime&#8217;s fortune in most of the world and more denaro that I could possibly (or have) clammed together even after getting some kick ass reviews and publishing shit&#8230;</p>
<p>I totally dont get the others cynicism&#8230;ya&#8217;ll, i live in an expensive city (Toronto) and am raising a family on a lot lot less than $45,000 and still managing to do work, write, penny-pinch my own projects&#8230;for shows and for books&#8230;</p>
<p>I think PhotoEditors post deserves accolades&#8230;the more the biz helps one another out (particularly those who&#8217;ve lined their lives with the good fortune of luck and connection) the better and richer (spiritually) and more challenging and challenged we&#8217;ll all be&#8230;</p>
<p>What a cool opportunity and what a great gesture that APhotoEditor and this blog offers&#8230;.</p>
<p>I hope some of y&#8217;all can manage to scrape this and turn it into something substantial.</p>
<p>Thanks Photo Editor :))</p>
<p>cheers<br />
bob</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 22. E Seidman: Thanks for the clairification.

See, there&#039;s no need to get the hackles up people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 22. E Seidman: Thanks for the clairification.</p>
<p>See, there&#8217;s no need to get the hackles up people.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Schmiedl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Schmiedl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the company is listed as &quot;Sporting goods industry&quot; on Elie Seidman&#039;s LinkedIn page:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/elieseidman

(here&#039;s his other background)
* Founder, CEO at Project Titan
* Director &amp; Investor at In Good Company Workplaces
* Board Of Directors; Observer at Progress Financial
* Venture Partner at Lime Rock Partners
* Founder, President &amp; CEO at Epana
* Product Marketing at Trilogy

Looks legit to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the company is listed as &#8220;Sporting goods industry&#8221; on Elie Seidman&#8217;s LinkedIn page:<br />
<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/elieseidman" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/in/elieseidman</a></p>
<p>(here&#8217;s his other background)<br />
* Founder, CEO at Project Titan<br />
* Director &amp; Investor at In Good Company Workplaces<br />
* Board Of Directors; Observer at Progress Financial<br />
* Venture Partner at Lime Rock Partners<br />
* Founder, President &amp; CEO at Epana<br />
* Product Marketing at Trilogy</p>
<p>Looks legit to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E Seidman</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29134</link>
		<dc:creator>E Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems we caused something of a stir. No, its not porn and its not paparazzi work either. We are in &quot;stealth mode&quot; hence no website. Basically, we have not yet publicly launched so we are not talking about what we are doing in an open forum. But there is nothing illicit, dirty, or off about it. 

While the pay will clearly be below what some consider to be an appropriate amount for where they are in their career (all you have to do is not apply - that takes no effort at all and certainly even less effort than writing a scathing post here), there are people with undegrad degrees from the best schools in this country and 2 to 5 years experience since graduation who make meaningfully less working full time for Conde Naste. Should you apply if you already make 200K a year? Of course not. Isn&#039;t that intrinsically obvious in any job posting whether for a photographer or any other position?

We are proposing a job where you work 175 to 200 days a year - traveling and taking photos. We pay for your gear, your travel, and your health care and pay you what many consider to be a reasonable rate of pay. And by the way, the inbox has overflowed with people who are not based in the US (Argentina, Brazil, Eastern Europe, India, Africa...) who do great work who are willing to work for far less though as we make clear in the ad, we strongly prefer people who are local to the NY area.

Is it for everyone? Clearly not. But is it the right job for some, absolutely! Just because its not the right job for where you are in your career does not merit all the invective. And I take a lot of pride that no part of my success as an entrepreneur has been derived from creating terrible working conditions. I believe that all people benefit from great working conditions and do better work when they have them; I won&#039;t claim any altruism here. If the people who work for and with us are happy, they do better work which in turn makes them happier and the Company more successful. And the wonder of stock options means that everyone benefits financially in addition to the pride of ownership over having helped create a great product. 

ES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems we caused something of a stir. No, its not porn and its not paparazzi work either. We are in &#8220;stealth mode&#8221; hence no website. Basically, we have not yet publicly launched so we are not talking about what we are doing in an open forum. But there is nothing illicit, dirty, or off about it. </p>
<p>While the pay will clearly be below what some consider to be an appropriate amount for where they are in their career (all you have to do is not apply &#8211; that takes no effort at all and certainly even less effort than writing a scathing post here), there are people with undegrad degrees from the best schools in this country and 2 to 5 years experience since graduation who make meaningfully less working full time for Conde Naste. Should you apply if you already make 200K a year? Of course not. Isn&#8217;t that intrinsically obvious in any job posting whether for a photographer or any other position?</p>
<p>We are proposing a job where you work 175 to 200 days a year &#8211; traveling and taking photos. We pay for your gear, your travel, and your health care and pay you what many consider to be a reasonable rate of pay. And by the way, the inbox has overflowed with people who are not based in the US (Argentina, Brazil, Eastern Europe, India, Africa&#8230;) who do great work who are willing to work for far less though as we make clear in the ad, we strongly prefer people who are local to the NY area.</p>
<p>Is it for everyone? Clearly not. But is it the right job for some, absolutely! Just because its not the right job for where you are in your career does not merit all the invective. And I take a lot of pride that no part of my success as an entrepreneur has been derived from creating terrible working conditions. I believe that all people benefit from great working conditions and do better work when they have them; I won&#8217;t claim any altruism here. If the people who work for and with us are happy, they do better work which in turn makes them happier and the Company more successful. And the wonder of stock options means that everyone benefits financially in addition to the pride of ownership over having helped create a great product. </p>
<p>ES</p>
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		<title>By: myles</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29132</link>
		<dc:creator>myles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the minority here. Not all photographers are making a killin, infact from what I hear the struggles often outway the rewards. Benefits are huge, and someone single or with a young family who currently has to pay into a plan might appreciate being covered for once. Clean teeth are a good thing from what I know. The application also mentions stock options - if the pitch is true and the entrepreneur behind this has a nother success on their hands then the payout will be great. 

My guess is that it is a pappo site. Millions of viewers, stealth mode....curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the minority here. Not all photographers are making a killin, infact from what I hear the struggles often outway the rewards. Benefits are huge, and someone single or with a young family who currently has to pay into a plan might appreciate being covered for once. Clean teeth are a good thing from what I know. The application also mentions stock options &#8211; if the pitch is true and the entrepreneur behind this has a nother success on their hands then the payout will be great. </p>
<p>My guess is that it is a pappo site. Millions of viewers, stealth mode&#8230;.curious.</p>
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		<title>By: New York City Job Openings&#187; Blog Archive &#187; - &#8220;New York&#8221; &#8220;employment opportunity&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29124</link>
		<dc:creator>New York City Job Openings&#187; Blog Archive &#187; - &#8220;New York&#8221; &#8220;employment opportunity&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Comment on Interesting Staff Photographer Position by Chris Oquist  By Chris Oquist  If you don?t want to apply for the job, don?t - but let?s all get up in arms about someone trying to push a possible employment opportunity to his many readers.. yeah, we need less of that for sure. @ Sean Jon: While I?m sure that at &#8230;   Comments for A Photo Editor - http://aphotoeditor.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...]  Comment on Interesting Staff Photographer Position by Chris Oquist  By Chris Oquist  If you don?t want to apply for the job, don?t &#8211; but let?s all get up in arms about someone trying to push a possible employment opportunity to his many readers.. yeah, we need less of that for sure. @ Sean Jon: While I?m sure that at &#8230;   Comments for A Photo Editor &#8211; <a href="http://aphotoeditor.com" rel="nofollow">http://aphotoeditor.com</a> [...]</div>
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		<title>By: R S Reitz</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29123</link>
		<dc:creator>R S Reitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you Google &quot;titan media and technology&quot; (quotes are needed), you get a different picture...

http://www.inspirehumanresources.com/clients.html - &quot;Provider of online travel services&quot;

http://www.alacrastore.com/storecontent/Thomson_Venture_Economics/Titan_Media_And_Technology_Corporation-Y258647
- &quot;Operates an Internet site that helps consumer find, evaluate and procure luxury goods.&quot;

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/a3a/5a1 - a staff writer with decent credentials</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you Google &#8220;titan media and technology&#8221; (quotes are needed), you get a different picture&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inspirehumanresources.com/clients.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.inspirehumanresources.com/clients.html</a> &#8211; &#8220;Provider of online travel services&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alacrastore.com/storecontent/Thomson_Venture_Economics/Titan_Media_And_Technology_Corporation-Y258647" rel="nofollow">http://www.alacrastore.com/storecontent/Thomson_Venture_Economics/Titan_Media_And_Technology_Corporation-Y258647</a><br />
- &#8220;Operates an Internet site that helps consumer find, evaluate and procure luxury goods.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/a3a/5a1" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/a3a/5a1</a> &#8211; a staff writer with decent credentials</p>
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		<title>By: fran pelzman liscio</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29122</link>
		<dc:creator>fran pelzman liscio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously, i think it was very nice of you to post it and i hope you keep posting things like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously, i think it was very nice of you to post it and i hope you keep posting things like that.</p>
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		<title>By: columbo</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29121</link>
		<dc:creator>columbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=susannah&amp;last=magrane&amp;search=Search

?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=susannah&amp;last=magrane&amp;search=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=susannah&amp;last=magrane&amp;search=Search</a></p>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Ziv</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29118</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bain Capital.
E &amp; E Seidman.
Project Titan.

It&#039;s all very hush hush.

My gosh, even in the back woods of Oregon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bain Capital.<br />
E &amp; E Seidman.<br />
Project Titan.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very hush hush.</p>
<p>My gosh, even in the back woods of Oregon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29114</link>
		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 14 Chris: Thanks. I thought I was crazy. Seriously, I see plenty of talented photographers with zero experience. You can go shoot projects on your own dime or maybe this might be a good opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 14 Chris: Thanks. I thought I was crazy. Seriously, I see plenty of talented photographers with zero experience. You can go shoot projects on your own dime or maybe this might be a good opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: fran pelzman liscio</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/comment-page-1/#comment-29111</link>
		<dc:creator>fran pelzman liscio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, relax. we kid! we kid! everybody&#039;s just a little lightheaded with despair after watching the financial sector collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, relax. we kid! we kid! everybody&#8217;s just a little lightheaded with despair after watching the financial sector collapse.</p>
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