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	<title>Comments on: Bil Zelman Shoots Pro Bono, But Not For Free</title>
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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Hanging Loose with Bil Zelman &#124; Add The World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanging Loose with Bil Zelman &#124; Add The World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was introduced to Bil&#8217;s work through an excellent interview in A Photo Editor. In it, he talks about why he engages in pro bono work for selected charities, and what he gets out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James Falsken</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Falsken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story and I think many people fail to see this side of humanity in the world. Thank you for exposing it, so we all can gain by it.
Myself, I have done some giving back as well. As a 100% disabled veteran, I am not allowed to earn a dine or I lose my disability rating with the Veteran Affairs Dept.  Agent orange and other injuries keep me from full time employment and instead of just waiting to die. I choose to give of myself and my knowledge of photography. For the past 2 years, I have shooting people and their service dogs for free. I been trying to keep it going, but can&#039;t earn money or I lose my compensation pension from The Va.  The government just doesn&#039;t understand the importance of doing something over just waiting to die.  So I do ,all my shooting for free now.  When I am shooting it gives me freedom in the moment from my own suffering. Most people don&#039;t want a disabled person around them, much less hire one as a photographer. So I  found my place in doing non-profit work for groups that can&#039;t afford to pay someone to do the job. Making it a win-win for all involed.  The only drawback is I can&#039;t upgrade equipment or add to what I have on just my disability pay alone. So far my reward, has been the thank you&#039;s from the people who I film. One just can&#039;t put a price tag on that and I should have done this years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story and I think many people fail to see this side of humanity in the world. Thank you for exposing it, so we all can gain by it.<br />
Myself, I have done some giving back as well. As a 100% disabled veteran, I am not allowed to earn a dine or I lose my disability rating with the Veteran Affairs Dept.  Agent orange and other injuries keep me from full time employment and instead of just waiting to die. I choose to give of myself and my knowledge of photography. For the past 2 years, I have shooting people and their service dogs for free. I been trying to keep it going, but can&#8217;t earn money or I lose my compensation pension from The Va.  The government just doesn&#8217;t understand the importance of doing something over just waiting to die.  So I do ,all my shooting for free now.  When I am shooting it gives me freedom in the moment from my own suffering. Most people don&#8217;t want a disabled person around them, much less hire one as a photographer. So I  found my place in doing non-profit work for groups that can&#8217;t afford to pay someone to do the job. Making it a win-win for all involed.  The only drawback is I can&#8217;t upgrade equipment or add to what I have on just my disability pay alone. So far my reward, has been the thank you&#8217;s from the people who I film. One just can&#8217;t put a price tag on that and I should have done this years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: William Cardoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Cardoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped to take a couple pictures, the &quot;REVOKE 8 MARCH&quot; was passing through my town...  Tracie Jones and Valerie Paget are walking from West Hollywod to the California Supreme court in San Francisco, raising awareness and getting signatures to repeal the ban on same sex marriage in California...

When I got out of the car, I had the intention of blogging and posting the pics I took, &quot;my two cents worth,&quot; so this past Monday it felt serendipitous to find this post which is very much in this same spirit of giving...  

Thank you.

W.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped to take a couple pictures, the &#8220;REVOKE 8 MARCH&#8221; was passing through my town&#8230;  Tracie Jones and Valerie Paget are walking from West Hollywod to the California Supreme court in San Francisco, raising awareness and getting signatures to repeal the ban on same sex marriage in California&#8230;</p>
<p>When I got out of the car, I had the intention of blogging and posting the pics I took, &#8220;my two cents worth,&#8221; so this past Monday it felt serendipitous to find this post which is very much in this same spirit of giving&#8230;  </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>W.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Moat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Moat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run into Bill at a local café every once in a while, and he is genuinely one of the nice guys in the business. He is proof that a good attitude can get get you far.

I agree with his take on low budget work for appropriate entities. There was a local alcoholic recovery house that I use to donate time to shoot their annual fundraiser. Some of the images were great, and the people were a pleasure to be around. Overall it was a great experience.

Obviously one is not going to make a living from this, but it is still worth doing every once in a while. I feel we should give back a bit, or help out, when we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run into Bill at a local café every once in a while, and he is genuinely one of the nice guys in the business. He is proof that a good attitude can get get you far.</p>
<p>I agree with his take on low budget work for appropriate entities. There was a local alcoholic recovery house that I use to donate time to shoot their annual fundraiser. Some of the images were great, and the people were a pleasure to be around. Overall it was a great experience.</p>
<p>Obviously one is not going to make a living from this, but it is still worth doing every once in a while. I feel we should give back a bit, or help out, when we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a blog post discussing the financial realities of what &quot;free&quot; really costs you. Here&#039;s the important stuff:

BEFORE you do anything for free, decide how much money you want to earn per year, and work up a serious Cost of Doing Business calculation. Factor in replacing your camera bodies every two years (shutters wear out when you’re working full-time), a budget for glass and flashes, insurance (individual medical insurance is very expensive), liability coverage, transportation costs, client entertainment, contingencies… Did I mention your salary? Better not forget that one.

If you do this realistically your annual CODB should fall somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000+ / year. If it’s much lower, and you’re just getting started in your photography career, do it again, and ask an established pro to look over your numbers for you. You’ve missed something important, I guarantee it. It took me several months to come to grips with my true cost of doing business.

Now recognize that you might need time off for illness, that there will be slow weeks, or even slow months… consider that you may only work 40 weeks per year. How many gigs can you really squeeze out per week, factoring in processing time, client discussions, delivery, and your marketing and business activities? Keep in mind, many photographers cite 80% business, 20% shooting.

Multiply the number of gigs per week by the number of weeks you can shoot per year (~40).

Average charge per gig = annual costs / gigs per year. Let’s call that Average charge per gig number The Big Sacrifice.

Now, when somebody asks you to shoot for free, ask yourself, “is this opportunity worth $The Big Sacrifice? Am I willing to pay that much money to work for these people?”

The sooner you realize that free isn’t free, the better. It sure is easy to forget all those numbers in the spreadsheet — until the bills come due, that is.

Every time a “free” gig comes up, imagine that the “client” is a pair of Girl Scouts at your door. Are those cookies really worth $The Big Sacrifice? If it’s a great project, or a great cause, and you really think it’ll help your career, go for it. But don’t pass out those freebies without seeing $The Big Sacrifice flash in your head, really big, in red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a blog post discussing the financial realities of what &#8220;free&#8221; really costs you. Here&#8217;s the important stuff:</p>
<p>BEFORE you do anything for free, decide how much money you want to earn per year, and work up a serious Cost of Doing Business calculation. Factor in replacing your camera bodies every two years (shutters wear out when you’re working full-time), a budget for glass and flashes, insurance (individual medical insurance is very expensive), liability coverage, transportation costs, client entertainment, contingencies… Did I mention your salary? Better not forget that one.</p>
<p>If you do this realistically your annual CODB should fall somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000+ / year. If it’s much lower, and you’re just getting started in your photography career, do it again, and ask an established pro to look over your numbers for you. You’ve missed something important, I guarantee it. It took me several months to come to grips with my true cost of doing business.</p>
<p>Now recognize that you might need time off for illness, that there will be slow weeks, or even slow months… consider that you may only work 40 weeks per year. How many gigs can you really squeeze out per week, factoring in processing time, client discussions, delivery, and your marketing and business activities? Keep in mind, many photographers cite 80% business, 20% shooting.</p>
<p>Multiply the number of gigs per week by the number of weeks you can shoot per year (~40).</p>
<p>Average charge per gig = annual costs / gigs per year. Let’s call that Average charge per gig number The Big Sacrifice.</p>
<p>Now, when somebody asks you to shoot for free, ask yourself, “is this opportunity worth $The Big Sacrifice? Am I willing to pay that much money to work for these people?”</p>
<p>The sooner you realize that free isn’t free, the better. It sure is easy to forget all those numbers in the spreadsheet — until the bills come due, that is.</p>
<p>Every time a “free” gig comes up, imagine that the “client” is a pair of Girl Scouts at your door. Are those cookies really worth $The Big Sacrifice? If it’s a great project, or a great cause, and you really think it’ll help your career, go for it. But don’t pass out those freebies without seeing $The Big Sacrifice flash in your head, really big, in red.</p>
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		<title>By: i.n.galbraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>i.n.galbraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this</p>
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		<title>By: Viata prin 50mm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Have camera, will shoot&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viata prin 50mm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Have camera, will shoot&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ca o concluzie, Bil Zelman spune cel mai bine: &#8220;Will shoot pro bono, but not for free&#8221;. Cititi tot articolul aici. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fotografi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fotografi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually work in special project about documentation tha is no anymore possible to sell to magazine.
Here an extract: 
http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000aDAiHeyHPRw/

 I usually ask for a coverage of the expenses and sometimes there is the opportunity to pubblish book.
I don&#039;t like the idea of working for free on commercial assignements and so I simply don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually work in special project about documentation tha is no anymore possible to sell to magazine.<br />
Here an extract:<br />
<a href="http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000aDAiHeyHPRw/" rel="nofollow">http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-slideshow/G0000aDAiHeyHPRw/</a></p>
<p> I usually ask for a coverage of the expenses and sometimes there is the opportunity to pubblish book.<br />
I don&#8217;t like the idea of working for free on commercial assignements and so I simply don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since 1999, I&#039;ve been involved with a group that help run a small hospital in North-Central Haiti.  Initially, I went to Haiti to shoot and create a report on the work for my Presbytery.  

In 2000, I became a member of the board and now am very active within the organization. I shoot every time I return to Haiti, I help with the web site, my sales of prints to donors has raised significant money.  One donor was given a 20x24 print and he liked the image so much, he wrote a check for 40K,.  That money was used to purchase new equipment for the hospital, medical supplies and food for an orphanage.

Over the years, I&#039;ve purchased some incredible domain names as bank of sorts.  I am giving many of them to my group to use as a fundraiser for purchasing seeds for haitian farmers.  The hurricanes of this year wiped out the crops in Northern Haiti.  Three hurricanes in the row with massive floods.  For a country with little to no topsoil, that was too much.  So far, we have raised about 30K for purchasing seeds. We were given 100K in seeds by an American Seed company.  My goal with the auctioning of the domain names is to raise about 20K for seeds and a feeding program for two orphanages. 

I get incredible joy form the work I&#039;ve done in Haiti.  Two years ago, I had a great location portrait shoot that came specifically from the work in Haiti.  The Creative Director for the project felt that if I could pull warm portraits from the streets of Haiti that I could get union workers to be real and warm for their campaign.

(If you are interested in purchasing some killer photographer related domain names with the money going to Community Coalition for Haiti - let me know - the auction will start next week.  A few of the names are:  location-photographer.com, corporate-photographer.com, editorial-photographer.com. virginia-photographer.com, etc, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since 1999, I&#8217;ve been involved with a group that help run a small hospital in North-Central Haiti.  Initially, I went to Haiti to shoot and create a report on the work for my Presbytery.  </p>
<p>In 2000, I became a member of the board and now am very active within the organization. I shoot every time I return to Haiti, I help with the web site, my sales of prints to donors has raised significant money.  One donor was given a 20&#215;24 print and he liked the image so much, he wrote a check for 40K,.  That money was used to purchase new equipment for the hospital, medical supplies and food for an orphanage.</p>
<p>Over the years, I&#8217;ve purchased some incredible domain names as bank of sorts.  I am giving many of them to my group to use as a fundraiser for purchasing seeds for haitian farmers.  The hurricanes of this year wiped out the crops in Northern Haiti.  Three hurricanes in the row with massive floods.  For a country with little to no topsoil, that was too much.  So far, we have raised about 30K for purchasing seeds. We were given 100K in seeds by an American Seed company.  My goal with the auctioning of the domain names is to raise about 20K for seeds and a feeding program for two orphanages. </p>
<p>I get incredible joy form the work I&#8217;ve done in Haiti.  Two years ago, I had a great location portrait shoot that came specifically from the work in Haiti.  The Creative Director for the project felt that if I could pull warm portraits from the streets of Haiti that I could get union workers to be real and warm for their campaign.</p>
<p>(If you are interested in purchasing some killer photographer related domain names with the money going to Community Coalition for Haiti &#8211; let me know &#8211; the auction will start next week.  A few of the names are:  location-photographer.com, corporate-photographer.com, editorial-photographer.com. virginia-photographer.com, etc, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a kid, my little brother had a tumor. We were all very worried.  Doctors told us that it was likely to be a fatal type of cancer. We went to a Christmas program at Primary Children&#039;s Medical Center called &quot;Festival of the Trees,&quot; where Christmas trees are decorated in memory of children who died of cancer.

Since that time, I&#039;ve seen friends wither and die of cancer. One of my best friends from childhood is currently battling cancer that has been in and out of remission for years.

When I heard that I could donate CPU cycles to cancer research projects, I did. I put together a network of six computers, and I ran them all for years, donating in total about 18 years of CPU processing time.

When I started doing photography, one of the first things I did was photograph cancer research fund raising events pro-bono.

To every photographer who tells me I&#039;m taking a paying gig from a professional photographer: No, I&#039;m not. I am a professional photographer donating my most valuable skill to a cause that I believe is worth sacrificing for. Try it. Helping people in need is its own reward.

- Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid, my little brother had a tumor. We were all very worried.  Doctors told us that it was likely to be a fatal type of cancer. We went to a Christmas program at Primary Children&#8217;s Medical Center called &#8220;Festival of the Trees,&#8221; where Christmas trees are decorated in memory of children who died of cancer.</p>
<p>Since that time, I&#8217;ve seen friends wither and die of cancer. One of my best friends from childhood is currently battling cancer that has been in and out of remission for years.</p>
<p>When I heard that I could donate CPU cycles to cancer research projects, I did. I put together a network of six computers, and I ran them all for years, donating in total about 18 years of CPU processing time.</p>
<p>When I started doing photography, one of the first things I did was photograph cancer research fund raising events pro-bono.</p>
<p>To every photographer who tells me I&#8217;m taking a paying gig from a professional photographer: No, I&#8217;m not. I am a professional photographer donating my most valuable skill to a cause that I believe is worth sacrificing for. Try it. Helping people in need is its own reward.</p>
<p>- Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Willheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Willheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post!! 
From reading the post and the comments, I feel that more Photographers will/should be doing this. As a assistant, I went twice to India for a Charity. As a Photographer, I just finished my first Charity Project, were I also filmed a 26 minute Documentary on Injuried Veterans. I have already started planning a few other projects, for next year. At least one will get a Documentary Film. I felt more satisfied, from my Charity work, than my Commercial work  and I plan top continue this thru my career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post!!<br />
From reading the post and the comments, I feel that more Photographers will/should be doing this. As a assistant, I went twice to India for a Charity. As a Photographer, I just finished my first Charity Project, were I also filmed a 26 minute Documentary on Injuried Veterans. I have already started planning a few other projects, for next year. At least one will get a Documentary Film. I felt more satisfied, from my Charity work, than my Commercial work  and I plan top continue this thru my career.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, thank you Bill for your honest and informative views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post, thank you Bill for your honest and informative views.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post and what an amazing opporunity to be able to do it pro bono.

Also very interesting timing on the post.  Was it in response to the recent &quot;free&quot; discussion over at Strobist and Chase Jarvis?  Or just a happy coincidence to expose all different angles of free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post and what an amazing opporunity to be able to do it pro bono.</p>
<p>Also very interesting timing on the post.  Was it in response to the recent &#8220;free&#8221; discussion over at Strobist and Chase Jarvis?  Or just a happy coincidence to expose all different angles of free?</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree more with the last line &quot;you feel really really good about it&quot;.  I give my time to Soulumination (www.soulumination.org) to photograph terminally ill children for their families.  For the patients&#039; privacy, I don&#039;t get to show the work at all, but honestly, who cares?  A smile from a grieving parent, with a tear-filled thank you, what is that worth?

It&#039;s not all about money, and I can assure you, one of my shoots for a baby girl changed my life.  I don&#039;t think any commercial work has.  The founder of Soul was very happy with the photographs, and she wrote me:

&quot;You were just the right guy for the job!&quot;

&quot;No,&quot; I replied, hiding tears from behind the monitor, &quot;it was the right job for the guy.&quot;

Thank you for a great story, Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree more with the last line &#8220;you feel really really good about it&#8221;.  I give my time to Soulumination (www.soulumination.org) to photograph terminally ill children for their families.  For the patients&#8217; privacy, I don&#8217;t get to show the work at all, but honestly, who cares?  A smile from a grieving parent, with a tear-filled thank you, what is that worth?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not all about money, and I can assure you, one of my shoots for a baby girl changed my life.  I don&#8217;t think any commercial work has.  The founder of Soul was very happy with the photographs, and she wrote me:</p>
<p>&#8220;You were just the right guy for the job!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No,&#8221; I replied, hiding tears from behind the monitor, &#8220;it was the right job for the guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for a great story, Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: todd huffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t get that image of the woman laying her hands on the sick child out of my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get that image of the woman laying her hands on the sick child out of my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Astonish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Astonish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be interviews like these that&#039;ll change the marketplace around and is just the level of social awareness others are looking for.

Thanks APE, Bil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be interviews like these that&#8217;ll change the marketplace around and is just the level of social awareness others are looking for.</p>
<p>Thanks APE, Bil.</p>
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		<title>By: cb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Rob,

Doing this kind of work is a win/win for everyone involved. I started my project (www.detaineeproject.org) with no funding and no idea where it would go, if anywhere. In fact, other than selling a few prints, I haven&#039;t made a nickel. But, I had the good fortune to come across something that was politically (and morally) relevant and it has exceeded my expectations. 

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Rob,</p>
<p>Doing this kind of work is a win/win for everyone involved. I started my project (www.detaineeproject.org) with no funding and no idea where it would go, if anywhere. In fact, other than selling a few prints, I haven&#8217;t made a nickel. But, I had the good fortune to come across something that was politically (and morally) relevant and it has exceeded my expectations. </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Hollis Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollis Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What timing, I just got back from shooting in Africa for a non-profit/charity dealing with rural water resources.  They wouldn&#039;t have been able to have anything solid image wise to show before but now, we are going to self publish a small book to sell to benefactors to help fund the program.  I agree fully with this interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What timing, I just got back from shooting in Africa for a non-profit/charity dealing with rural water resources.  They wouldn&#8217;t have been able to have anything solid image wise to show before but now, we are going to self publish a small book to sell to benefactors to help fund the program.  I agree fully with this interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work Bil.</description>
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		<title>By: Russell Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob- great interview-  thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob- great interview-  thanks.</p>
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