Comments on: Photograph Obama Hope Poster Based On Discovered

By: Fashion games.

Fashion games. — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:47:26 +0000

Fashion bug….

Italian hair fashion. Fashion bug. Fashion games to play. Fashion schools….

By: Alexis Evanoff

Alexis Evanoff — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:13:04 +0000

You know what, nevermind what I said, not because I don’t necessarily still think it, but because the law is not on my side:

“The Effect of the Use Upon the Potential Market

Another important fair use factor is whether your use deprives the copyright owner of income or undermines a new or potential market for the copyrighted work. As we indicated previously, depriving a copyright owner of income is very likely to trigger a lawsuit. This is true even if you are not competing directly with the original work.

For example, in one case an artist used a copyrighted photograph without permission as the basis for wood sculptures, copying all of the elements of the photo. The artist earned several hundred thousand dollars selling the sculptures. When the photographer sued, the artist claimed his sculptures were a fair use because the photographer would never have considered making sculptures. The court disagreed, stating that it did not matter whether the photographer had considered making sculptures; what mattered was that a potential market for sculptures of the photograph existed. ( Rogers v. Koons, 960 F.2d 301 (2d Cir. 1992).)”

found here:
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-b.html#1

By: Joe Reifer

Joe Reifer — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:25:35 +0000

THIS JUST IN: Source of JOEBAMA Campaign Image Traced To Thomas Hawk Photo

By: Gary Crabbe

Gary Crabbe — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:15:20 +0000

Do you think that this initial public confusion, even among industry professionals, and the similarity between the photos, combined with what you reference above to motor drives and event shooting, may serve to actually undermine or dilute any potential claim?

By: A Photo Editor

A Photo Editor — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:07 +0000

@Tim,
That would appear to be the one… reminds me of how I got a call once from a photographers saying I had published his image without permission so I asked him to send it to me. Sure enough it was the exact same image as another photographer had taken. The photographer who thought I had stolen his image didn’t work in sports photography and was unaware that this is a fairly common occurrence when shooting with a motor drive at a sporting event.

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:30:43 +0000

That’s not the source image. The scoop is wrong.

This is the source image:

http://intrepidliberaljournal.blogspot.com/2006/10/reminiscing-about-future-barack-obamas.html

And here is how it compares to the original Hope poster:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/01/james-danzinger-finds-the-source-of-hope.html#comments

By: Darrell Eager

Darrell Eager — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:49:58 +0000

It all boils down to what the original photographer thinks. To some inspiring history is enough. I would love to hang my name on that!

By: Chad

Chad — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:30:00 +0000

Seems that there may be other theories as well.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25105505@N07/3212113517/

By: Alexis Evanoff

Alexis Evanoff — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:49:47 +0000

I can’t believe there is actually a debate going on under the article about whether or not it is fair use. Now that is just silly to me. I’m an artist (painter/drawer) turned photographer (believe it or not, there is more money in photography, and aside from that, I found I could seperate myself from my photographs but not from my paintings). For me, this whole thing is silly because when you draw something it really does become something different. Even in this case, the look in Obama’s eyes is more intense, his face is more resolute, the colors are a statement as well.

By: Finn O'Hara

Finn O'Hara — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:36:52 +0000

Yes, the Daily Beast really is carving out a nice niche.

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