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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Sue Taggart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Taggart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@STONER, 

The even bigger point - he dared to fail with his client&#039;s money. It never ceases to amaze me how big agencies are able to get away with such b---s---. There is so much great design out there, maybe Tropicana should have looked around at smaller groups who really know how to create great designs that appeal to consumers - just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@STONER, </p>
<p>The even bigger point &#8211; he dared to fail with his client&#8217;s money. It never ceases to amaze me how big agencies are able to get away with such b&#8212;s&#8212;. There is so much great design out there, maybe Tropicana should have looked around at smaller groups who really know how to create great designs that appeal to consumers &#8211; just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Currie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Arnell explained it was a 5 month long process of redesign and that was the result?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Shipman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Shipman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, I couldn&#039;t sit through the entire video. Like others have said, it doesn&#039;t seem that Arnell had even sold himself on the concept. And how does squeezing an artificial orange cap make me think of getting a hug or associating that with getting juice from a real orange and a straw poking out of a real orange didn&#039;t? Crap, crap, crap. Besides, the new design made it look like generic juice. 

This guy would have been fired from the Apprentice before the first project ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I couldn&#8217;t sit through the entire video. Like others have said, it doesn&#8217;t seem that Arnell had even sold himself on the concept. And how does squeezing an artificial orange cap make me think of getting a hug or associating that with getting juice from a real orange and a straw poking out of a real orange didn&#8217;t? Crap, crap, crap. Besides, the new design made it look like generic juice. </p>
<p>This guy would have been fired from the Apprentice before the first project ended.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ekizian</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ekizian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all for the visual evolution, and revolution of a brand&#039;s identity. But where Arnell failed miserably with the Tropicana packaging was in clearly communicating the varied product offerings- (Lots of pulp, No pulp, Calcium no pulp, Low Sugar no pulp, Touch of  pulp, Hint of pulp and kittens...) which was very clear through prominent color banding and typography on the top of the carton on the old packaging. When I first saw the new carton, I thought it was a generic placeholder of some sort- the washed out green of the new tropicana logo wasn&#039;t helping. I literally had to search to find the &quot;low sugar, no pulp&quot; container that was so easily decipherable before. What stood before me at in the juice aisle was a sea of packages that all looked the same. The clear product offering descriptor device had been replaced by a thin color band tucked into the crease at the top of the container, and type that had to be searched for on the face of the carton. As a designer, I feel as though I have a pretty trained eye for these things, and can allow for a bit of a&quot;getting used to it&quot; phase with a brand&#039;s redesign (I now think the BMW 5 Series is a really strong design)- but every time I went to buy juice, the process annoyed me more. I felt vindicated in my frustration when I overheard an older gentleman mumble to his wife &quot;I can&#039;t find my damn juice&quot;. I became so annoyed that I switched in protest to Florida&#039;s Natural brand. When I heard that Peter Arnell was behind the redesign- it all made sense to me. I could only imaging the millions he was paid for the job. Big &quot;F-ing F&quot; for failure, Mr. Arnell. Your arrogance and well earned reputation for this kind of crap has failed yet another client, the reputation of the ad and design industry, and most importantly- the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for the visual evolution, and revolution of a brand&#8217;s identity. But where Arnell failed miserably with the Tropicana packaging was in clearly communicating the varied product offerings- (Lots of pulp, No pulp, Calcium no pulp, Low Sugar no pulp, Touch of  pulp, Hint of pulp and kittens&#8230;) which was very clear through prominent color banding and typography on the top of the carton on the old packaging. When I first saw the new carton, I thought it was a generic placeholder of some sort- the washed out green of the new tropicana logo wasn&#8217;t helping. I literally had to search to find the &#8220;low sugar, no pulp&#8221; container that was so easily decipherable before. What stood before me at in the juice aisle was a sea of packages that all looked the same. The clear product offering descriptor device had been replaced by a thin color band tucked into the crease at the top of the container, and type that had to be searched for on the face of the carton. As a designer, I feel as though I have a pretty trained eye for these things, and can allow for a bit of a&#8221;getting used to it&#8221; phase with a brand&#8217;s redesign (I now think the BMW 5 Series is a really strong design)- but every time I went to buy juice, the process annoyed me more. I felt vindicated in my frustration when I overheard an older gentleman mumble to his wife &#8220;I can&#8217;t find my damn juice&#8221;. I became so annoyed that I switched in protest to Florida&#8217;s Natural brand. When I heard that Peter Arnell was behind the redesign- it all made sense to me. I could only imaging the millions he was paid for the job. Big &#8220;F-ing F&#8221; for failure, Mr. Arnell. Your arrogance and well earned reputation for this kind of crap has failed yet another client, the reputation of the ad and design industry, and most importantly- the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: STONER</title>
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		<dc:creator>STONER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul M, 
I understand why you&#039;re saying what you&#039;re saying: you haven&#039;t had the opportunity to step away from the design industry, take a breath, clear your head and look back in on the business with a fresh, open mind. That&#039;s what I had to do in order to see things for what they really are and it was an enlightening process. 

When you&#039;re immersed in your daily worklife, reaching your professional goals, dealing with your clients, internal politics, etc., you never get a chance leave your body to float up to the ceiling, look down on yourself and the business you&#039;re in and really take survey of things. 

Once I did that, I can tell you that I was able to see the painfully obvious. In this case, I completely understand the challenges any shop would face with such a daunting assignment as this and the unusually large pile of bullshit Arnell spews clearly belies what HE&#039;s actually good at. And it&#039;s not great design, brother.

Take a look at those hardbacks on your shelf near your monitor and drafting table – find the great design by guys like Seymour Chwast, Milton Glaser, Paul Rand, Saul Bass...you get the idea – and just compare bodies of work to this self-described design genius. Please. These guys faced the same core challenges and changed the face of modern design with their creativity. 

Arnell is an embarrassment to the craft, Paul. Believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul M,<br />
I understand why you&#8217;re saying what you&#8217;re saying: you haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to step away from the design industry, take a breath, clear your head and look back in on the business with a fresh, open mind. That&#8217;s what I had to do in order to see things for what they really are and it was an enlightening process. </p>
<p>When you&#8217;re immersed in your daily worklife, reaching your professional goals, dealing with your clients, internal politics, etc., you never get a chance leave your body to float up to the ceiling, look down on yourself and the business you&#8217;re in and really take survey of things. </p>
<p>Once I did that, I can tell you that I was able to see the painfully obvious. In this case, I completely understand the challenges any shop would face with such a daunting assignment as this and the unusually large pile of bullshit Arnell spews clearly belies what HE&#8217;s actually good at. And it&#8217;s not great design, brother.</p>
<p>Take a look at those hardbacks on your shelf near your monitor and drafting table – find the great design by guys like Seymour Chwast, Milton Glaser, Paul Rand, Saul Bass&#8230;you get the idea – and just compare bodies of work to this self-described design genius. Please. These guys faced the same core challenges and changed the face of modern design with their creativity. </p>
<p>Arnell is an embarrassment to the craft, Paul. Believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to be honest, as someone with 25+ years in the design industry I find the idea of the re-branding of a huge company like Tropicana to be a quite difficult challenge.  I therefore both sympathize and understand the position Arnell was put in. I have to say I think he performed quite well given the circumstances, I only detected a very small amount of BS. I believe Arnell is a man who is quite passionate and knowledgeable about his craft, I find it somewhat flippant to call him a fake or phony. I believe there are very few designers on the planet who in his shoes could have done any better. 

The design world has been flooded with a load of mediocrity since every one with a computer and an Adobe package is now a &quot;designer.&quot; It makes it very difficult for those with talent (not hype!) to make a name for themselves. The field of photography has only experienced this phenomenon in the last decade or so, we in the design industry have been putting up with it for almost 20 years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to be honest, as someone with 25+ years in the design industry I find the idea of the re-branding of a huge company like Tropicana to be a quite difficult challenge.  I therefore both sympathize and understand the position Arnell was put in. I have to say I think he performed quite well given the circumstances, I only detected a very small amount of BS. I believe Arnell is a man who is quite passionate and knowledgeable about his craft, I find it somewhat flippant to call him a fake or phony. I believe there are very few designers on the planet who in his shoes could have done any better. </p>
<p>The design world has been flooded with a load of mediocrity since every one with a computer and an Adobe package is now a &#8220;designer.&#8221; It makes it very difficult for those with talent (not hype!) to make a name for themselves. The field of photography has only experienced this phenomenon in the last decade or so, we in the design industry have been putting up with it for almost 20 years now.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wonder if any blame will fall on the photographer who took the shot of the glass of o.j.  I hope not for his or her sake.</description>
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		<title>By: doktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>doktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm what strikes me is the bad typo, choice of font and graphics. Its totally &quot;cold&quot;. Prob was supposed to look modern but actually totally ignores the &quot;sign of the times&quot;. People dont want &quot;cold&quot; and &quot;reduced&quot; now at all. Not for food products anyway.

Everything else is a non story to me. The 35 millions - there&#039;s bigger figures. Its a lot for sure but I woudl guess still normal for a brand like that. The bullshitting to the executives - hey it&#039;s the advertising industry. In a way he&#039;s doing his job. The BS is always there on this level. Its kinda of sad  but I wouldn&#039;t mind it and the 35 Millions if the design was good and fresh and contemporary but it isn&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm what strikes me is the bad typo, choice of font and graphics. Its totally &#8220;cold&#8221;. Prob was supposed to look modern but actually totally ignores the &#8220;sign of the times&#8221;. People dont want &#8220;cold&#8221; and &#8220;reduced&#8221; now at all. Not for food products anyway.</p>
<p>Everything else is a non story to me. The 35 millions &#8211; there&#8217;s bigger figures. Its a lot for sure but I woudl guess still normal for a brand like that. The bullshitting to the executives &#8211; hey it&#8217;s the advertising industry. In a way he&#8217;s doing his job. The BS is always there on this level. Its kinda of sad  but I wouldn&#8217;t mind it and the 35 Millions if the design was good and fresh and contemporary but it isn&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: ericF.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericF.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must add that I too had difficulty finding my Tropicana in the grocery store.  It took me a while to see it with the new packaging, which I thought was an extremely ineffective redesign.  I don&#039;t know their sales figures, but otherwise why fix something that isn&#039;t broken?   Funny thing is that I purchased it just as I would have with the old packaging, so that seems like 35 Million dollars wasted to me.

I don&#039;t seem to recall the new textured cap.  Maybe they could have saved 10 Million right there?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must add that I too had difficulty finding my Tropicana in the grocery store.  It took me a while to see it with the new packaging, which I thought was an extremely ineffective redesign.  I don&#8217;t know their sales figures, but otherwise why fix something that isn&#8217;t broken?   Funny thing is that I purchased it just as I would have with the old packaging, so that seems like 35 Million dollars wasted to me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t seem to recall the new textured cap.  Maybe they could have saved 10 Million right there?  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For weeks I thought the Pepsi logo was a logo re-org of KoreanAirways</description>
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		<title>By: STONER</title>
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		<dc:creator>STONER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dude, 
I&#039;m probably to close to this, but your points #1 and #2 are part of the reason why Arnell is no scapegoat. He&#039;s an integral part of the problem in the Blue Chip design circus. 

Ever hear of the Celine Dion/Chrysler disaster? Millions spent on Arnell&#039;s cunningly-presented shitty ideas, only to have the campaign scrapped due to a direct downturn in sales/support and money wasted. And it&#039;s interesting to hear him use the same &quot;ergonomic experience&quot; bullshit to explain his Chrysler disaster and his Tropicana debacle.

And his SoBe 3D Super Bowl spot that he claims is as monumental and important as Edison&#039;s invention of the motion picture? Really? Can you even recall that commercial?

Add the Gatorade &quot;G&quot; rebranding/advertising to this mess and you&#039;ll begin to see a pattern here. 

I think the story here is that now, if the gatherings of the spineless don&#039;t call bullshit on Arnell&#039;s bullshit, the buying public will have no problem and an influential medium to take on that responsibility...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dude,<br />
I&#8217;m probably to close to this, but your points #1 and #2 are part of the reason why Arnell is no scapegoat. He&#8217;s an integral part of the problem in the Blue Chip design circus. </p>
<p>Ever hear of the Celine Dion/Chrysler disaster? Millions spent on Arnell&#8217;s cunningly-presented shitty ideas, only to have the campaign scrapped due to a direct downturn in sales/support and money wasted. And it&#8217;s interesting to hear him use the same &#8220;ergonomic experience&#8221; bullshit to explain his Chrysler disaster and his Tropicana debacle.</p>
<p>And his SoBe 3D Super Bowl spot that he claims is as monumental and important as Edison&#8217;s invention of the motion picture? Really? Can you even recall that commercial?</p>
<p>Add the Gatorade &#8220;G&#8221; rebranding/advertising to this mess and you&#8217;ll begin to see a pattern here. </p>
<p>I think the story here is that now, if the gatherings of the spineless don&#8217;t call bullshit on Arnell&#8217;s bullshit, the buying public will have no problem and an influential medium to take on that responsibility&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dude, 
&quot;He used the psychology of the situation - a room full of paranoid execs, each one more scared than the next to put forth a strong opinion, so nobody calls him on his BS.&quot; Love this idea. Yeah, they call bullshit on Arnell after he&#039;s not around.

Brilliant analysis. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dude,<br />
&#8220;He used the psychology of the situation &#8211; a room full of paranoid execs, each one more scared than the next to put forth a strong opinion, so nobody calls him on his BS.&#8221; Love this idea. Yeah, they call bullshit on Arnell after he&#8217;s not around.</p>
<p>Brilliant analysis. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe DuPont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe DuPont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can add is

Nice Tie.</description>
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<p>Nice Tie.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things I see going on here:

1) Arnell is being made a scapegoat for bad sales.  The packaging is bad IMO but it&#039;s only part of the problem and while I&#039;m not fan of Arnell, there were countless Pepsi execs who signed off on it and bought into all his BS.  The Pepsi document is truly a bunch of pseudo-intellectual-DaVinci-code-BS.  So, while he is indeed the source of the BS, there were many many people involved in the $35 million decision to go ahead with the redesign, not to mention other people who were involved in the marketing, distribution, placement and promotion who are also culpable for bad sales.  PepsiCo is a big public company, so their stockholders want to see ACTION and want to see them make bold moves so they don&#039;t take their dwindling 401K funds out of Pepsi stock.

2) Arnell used an effective strategy for getting his stupid idea greenlighted.  He used the psychology of the situation - a room full of paranoid execs, each one more scared than the next to put forth a strong opinion, so nobody calls him on his BS.  If you pseudo-intellectualize anything enough, you can convince a room full of execs that it&#039;s genius.  Like &quot;The Emperor&#039;s New Clothes&quot;.  If the Tropicana documentation was anything like the Pepsi rebranding, then I imagine the cap must be the very source of love and harmony in the universe.

3) The outside of the orange usually looks better than the juice.  OJ is generally lumpy with pulp and doesn&#039;t pour well or have physical characteristics that are as visually interesting as, say Pepsi or Beer.  Maybe this has something to do with the fact that it&#039;s natural and most marketed drinks are not.

4) The old packaging looks like crap.  Just because Petey boy&#039;s carton looks like the juice version of Surface Magazine (aka: bland, sans-serif, lacking in interest and flourish) doesn&#039;t mean the old design was good either.  The only thing it&#039;s got going for it is the concept of an orange with a straw in it, but visually it&#039;s cluttered and looks about as dynamic as the newest generation of $5 and $20 bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things I see going on here:</p>
<p>1) Arnell is being made a scapegoat for bad sales.  The packaging is bad IMO but it&#8217;s only part of the problem and while I&#8217;m not fan of Arnell, there were countless Pepsi execs who signed off on it and bought into all his BS.  The Pepsi document is truly a bunch of pseudo-intellectual-DaVinci-code-BS.  So, while he is indeed the source of the BS, there were many many people involved in the $35 million decision to go ahead with the redesign, not to mention other people who were involved in the marketing, distribution, placement and promotion who are also culpable for bad sales.  PepsiCo is a big public company, so their stockholders want to see ACTION and want to see them make bold moves so they don&#8217;t take their dwindling 401K funds out of Pepsi stock.</p>
<p>2) Arnell used an effective strategy for getting his stupid idea greenlighted.  He used the psychology of the situation &#8211; a room full of paranoid execs, each one more scared than the next to put forth a strong opinion, so nobody calls him on his BS.  If you pseudo-intellectualize anything enough, you can convince a room full of execs that it&#8217;s genius.  Like &#8220;The Emperor&#8217;s New Clothes&#8221;.  If the Tropicana documentation was anything like the Pepsi rebranding, then I imagine the cap must be the very source of love and harmony in the universe.</p>
<p>3) The outside of the orange usually looks better than the juice.  OJ is generally lumpy with pulp and doesn&#8217;t pour well or have physical characteristics that are as visually interesting as, say Pepsi or Beer.  Maybe this has something to do with the fact that it&#8217;s natural and most marketed drinks are not.</p>
<p>4) The old packaging looks like crap.  Just because Petey boy&#8217;s carton looks like the juice version of Surface Magazine (aka: bland, sans-serif, lacking in interest and flourish) doesn&#8217;t mean the old design was good either.  The only thing it&#8217;s got going for it is the concept of an orange with a straw in it, but visually it&#8217;s cluttered and looks about as dynamic as the newest generation of $5 and $20 bills.</p>
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		<title>By: yep</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39033</link>
		<dc:creator>yep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@M. Scott Brauer, agreed.  if your campaign flops, make sure it flops hard enough to get tons of press and go viral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@M. Scott Brauer, agreed.  if your campaign flops, make sure it flops hard enough to get tons of press and go viral.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Scott Brauer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39031</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Scott Brauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tropicana couldn&#039;t have bought this much blog and word of mouth coverage if they tried.    I haven&#039;t thought about Tropicana in a long time (don&#039;t really buy &quot;juice products&quot;), but now I&#039;ve told a few friends about the debacle, always mentioning Tropicana in the process.  I&#039;m not convinced these guys are clever enough to pull it off, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see something like this turn out to be a viral marketing stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tropicana couldn&#8217;t have bought this much blog and word of mouth coverage if they tried.    I haven&#8217;t thought about Tropicana in a long time (don&#8217;t really buy &#8220;juice products&#8221;), but now I&#8217;ve told a few friends about the debacle, always mentioning Tropicana in the process.  I&#8217;m not convinced these guys are clever enough to pull it off, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see something like this turn out to be a viral marketing stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Schenck</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39030</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Schenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REAL moral of the story.  Get Arnell&#039;s group to redesign your logos and packaging.  You&#039;ll have to live with the results, but who cares when you&#039;re getting so much publicity for your product.  When the S-storm is over, go back to your old look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REAL moral of the story.  Get Arnell&#8217;s group to redesign your logos and packaging.  You&#8217;ll have to live with the results, but who cares when you&#8217;re getting so much publicity for your product.  When the S-storm is over, go back to your old look.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerold</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39022</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this have anything to do with marketing to the under 25 crowd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this have anything to do with marketing to the under 25 crowd?</p>
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		<title>By: STONER</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39019</link>
		<dc:creator>STONER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, people: package design is a necessary and honorable industry in a capitalist society – that&#039;s a fact proven over the last 100+ years in this country alone. Think the L&#039;Eggs egg and the Aunt Jemima syrup packages as just two great examples.

But the point here is that Peter Arnell represents what goes horribly wrong in this industry on a scale and playing field not really seen before with such immediacy. And APE is making the point that the new social media has EVERYTHING to do with that – and we&#039;re active participants in it with this very thread.  

The fact that Arnell looks such an asshole is because he really is one: it&#039;s been a very long time since I&#039;ve seen such a ripe bunch of bullshit berries being squeezed into one carafe and passed around as a valuable vintage. Jeezus, did I just say that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, people: package design is a necessary and honorable industry in a capitalist society – that&#8217;s a fact proven over the last 100+ years in this country alone. Think the L&#8217;Eggs egg and the Aunt Jemima syrup packages as just two great examples.</p>
<p>But the point here is that Peter Arnell represents what goes horribly wrong in this industry on a scale and playing field not really seen before with such immediacy. And APE is making the point that the new social media has EVERYTHING to do with that – and we&#8217;re active participants in it with this very thread.  </p>
<p>The fact that Arnell looks such an asshole is because he really is one: it&#8217;s been a very long time since I&#8217;ve seen such a ripe bunch of bullshit berries being squeezed into one carafe and passed around as a valuable vintage. Jeezus, did I just say that?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lohre</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39016</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Lohre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have NO IDEA how much packaging redesign is a bunch of BUNK!!!  I worked on so many redesigns at my former employer to know that there is always some sort of BS going on during every turn.  Somebody always has this &quot;Groundbreaking Packaging Idea&quot; that&#039;s gonna turn the next brand into that Billion dollar brand.  You make those brands with winning products, not packages dummies!

I don&#039;t care how many focus groups they did, there is no way this new package won over consumers...unless you did the focus group with Ikea and Target employees.  

It&#039;s soo funny.  There is so much money to built into budgets for package redesigns that companies continue to spend it as if they HAVE to do what they&#039;ve done every 4-5 years prior....&quot;Well we really need to spend this money on a new package redesign because it&#039;s time.  Irregardless of whether it&#039;s necessarily the right thing to do in the marketplace.  

Be interesting if Co&#039;s cut back the crap spending to help save themselves instead of looking for government handouts, bailouts etc....

Enough of my rant on Corporate America for today.  

CARRY ON PEEPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have NO IDEA how much packaging redesign is a bunch of BUNK!!!  I worked on so many redesigns at my former employer to know that there is always some sort of BS going on during every turn.  Somebody always has this &#8220;Groundbreaking Packaging Idea&#8221; that&#8217;s gonna turn the next brand into that Billion dollar brand.  You make those brands with winning products, not packages dummies!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how many focus groups they did, there is no way this new package won over consumers&#8230;unless you did the focus group with Ikea and Target employees.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s soo funny.  There is so much money to built into budgets for package redesigns that companies continue to spend it as if they HAVE to do what they&#8217;ve done every 4-5 years prior&#8230;.&#8221;Well we really need to spend this money on a new package redesign because it&#8217;s time.  Irregardless of whether it&#8217;s necessarily the right thing to do in the marketplace.  </p>
<p>Be interesting if Co&#8217;s cut back the crap spending to help save themselves instead of looking for government handouts, bailouts etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>Enough of my rant on Corporate America for today.  </p>
<p>CARRY ON PEEPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39013</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new packaging was on the shelf for 3 weeks before I realized it was Tropicana and not a generic brand.  Arnell is full of more sh*t than a Christmas turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new packaging was on the shelf for 3 weeks before I realized it was Tropicana and not a generic brand.  Arnell is full of more sh*t than a Christmas turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39008</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular belief, processed orange juice isn&#039;t good for you.  Maybe Mr. Arnell felt the same way and couldn&#039;t stand behind the product.  

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/02/secrets-of-orange-ju.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular belief, processed orange juice isn&#8217;t good for you.  Maybe Mr. Arnell felt the same way and couldn&#8217;t stand behind the product.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/02/secrets-of-orange-ju.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/02/secrets-of-orange-ju.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: shahn</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39007</link>
		<dc:creator>shahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read about the Obama link but the new pepsi logo never fails to remind me of Carnival Cruise line. 

It is so similar that i wonder how it didnt cross the company&#039;s mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about the Obama link but the new pepsi logo never fails to remind me of Carnival Cruise line. </p>
<p>It is so similar that i wonder how it didnt cross the company&#8217;s mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rood</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-39006</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moral of the story?

Drink apple juice. Because OJ will kill you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moral of the story?</p>
<p>Drink apple juice. Because OJ will kill you.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38999</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...reality check - all to sell more OJ.

Good to know that this is what the world has come to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;reality check &#8211; all to sell more OJ.</p>
<p>Good to know that this is what the world has come to.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Moat</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38998</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Moat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Now I can buy orange juice again at Target! I really thought they replaced my favorite tasting Tropicano with generic, but after seeing this I realized they F&#039;ed up the packaging. Oh happy day! (except for Peter Arnell)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Now I can buy orange juice again at Target! I really thought they replaced my favorite tasting Tropicano with generic, but after seeing this I realized they F&#8217;ed up the packaging. Oh happy day! (except for Peter Arnell)</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Curiel</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38997</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Curiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY AD GENIUSES!: It&#039;s not the 80&#039;s anymore. No one cares about little round things with textures like other things. Remember the air pump high tops with buttons that had textures like a basketball? You know what people are interested in? THEIR OWN SELVES. 
Seen www.skittles.com lately? It links you back to your own twitter/facebook. 

I say they should have made the boxes with mirrors all over them so people can see their own face everytime they grab a carton. Now that&#039;s what I want in my fridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY AD GENIUSES!: It&#8217;s not the 80&#8217;s anymore. No one cares about little round things with textures like other things. Remember the air pump high tops with buttons that had textures like a basketball? You know what people are interested in? THEIR OWN SELVES.<br />
Seen <a href="http://www.skittles.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.skittles.com</a> lately? It links you back to your own twitter/facebook. </p>
<p>I say they should have made the boxes with mirrors all over them so people can see their own face everytime they grab a carton. Now that&#8217;s what I want in my fridge.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38993</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the job they did with Pepsi is even worse....my God it&#039;s all about the name in this business.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38992</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know what... i almost want them to keep the redesign going now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know what&#8230; i almost want them to keep the redesign going now!</p>
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		<title>By: jean-marie</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/03/advertising-ceo-meltdown/comment-page-1/#comment-38991</link>
		<dc:creator>jean-marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That  presentation does a disservice to the design industry as a whole. Arnell comes off as a huckster who understands the concept of brand at a very superficial level. Watching it makes me cringe, though I think it&#039;s right and good that a firm that justifies it&#039;s design work and design thinking with a presentation like that *should* receive all of the negative press it is now receiving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That  presentation does a disservice to the design industry as a whole. Arnell comes off as a huckster who understands the concept of brand at a very superficial level. Watching it makes me cringe, though I think it&#8217;s right and good that a firm that justifies it&#8217;s design work and design thinking with a presentation like that *should* receive all of the negative press it is now receiving.</p>
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