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	<title>Comments on: PDN 30 Photographers To Watch- 2009</title>
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		<title>By: NANCY COHN</title>
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		<dc:creator>NANCY COHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone with influence for critiera on the nomination. Like who? photo editor, director??? help me. I have two that I think would qualify .</description>
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		<title>By: he</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-43001</link>
		<dc:creator>he</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@snapper, 

if you didn&#039;t apply then why are you so angry? I never got what there is all this backlash against the so-called &quot;Hipster&quot; what ever happened to bashing the &quot;squares&quot;? in my opinion they are the enemy. I am tired of people bashing hipsters. its as old as a trucker hat but even the wannabe hip are not wearing those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@snapper, </p>
<p>if you didn&#8217;t apply then why are you so angry? I never got what there is all this backlash against the so-called &#8220;Hipster&#8221; what ever happened to bashing the &#8220;squares&#8221;? in my opinion they are the enemy. I am tired of people bashing hipsters. its as old as a trucker hat but even the wannabe hip are not wearing those.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Souto, The end of the Trail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando Souto, The end of the Trail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via A Photo Editor ,dentro de la colección de PDN &#8220;30 Photographers to watch&#8221; encuentro este genial trabajo de Fernando Souto sobre en el sur mas tradicion de los Estados Unidos. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-40941</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erica Chadwick, excuse my obtuseness, I was talking about editorial. I can&#039;t imagine that department assignments aren&#039;t being toned back to help make up for the excesses of a feature or a cover shoot or just simply the first place to start cutting budgets. For me the apparent lack of overt production associations with the participants chosen illustrate that idea.
 Maybe it was just an off year for the Art Center Kids.
 Basically, I was just trying to see if there was a possible reason that would provide Blue an answer to his perception that the talent chosen this year was lacking in craft skills. For some reason I don&#039;t associate new talent with ad work. Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erica Chadwick, excuse my obtuseness, I was talking about editorial. I can&#8217;t imagine that department assignments aren&#8217;t being toned back to help make up for the excesses of a feature or a cover shoot or just simply the first place to start cutting budgets. For me the apparent lack of overt production associations with the participants chosen illustrate that idea.<br />
 Maybe it was just an off year for the Art Center Kids.<br />
 Basically, I was just trying to see if there was a possible reason that would provide Blue an answer to his perception that the talent chosen this year was lacking in craft skills. For some reason I don&#8217;t associate new talent with ad work. Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Chadwick</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-40933</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica Chadwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scott Rex Ely, 

It depends what you are shooting- but art directors do not concept based on a budget.  The agency concepts several ideas, pitches one or many more ideas to the client, and picks the concept they think will work best in their target markets. In fact, many times they shoot several spec ads, and then present it to focus groups to see which concept will land with their consumers. I&#039;ve had this conversation before with art directors and overwhelmingly they say they concept for the product / service and the target market and shoot for that.  If an ad works and it costs $25,000 more than one that doesn&#039;t work or represent the product well, they will spend the extra $25,0000.

That idea does not stand up for editorial either.  Seems as though photo editors call the photographer they want and there is no shortage of photographers willing to shoot for editorial rates.

I would have like to have seen more advertising photographers in the mix. While this year&#039;s 30 were a talented group, I do not think they speak to the ad world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scott Rex Ely, </p>
<p>It depends what you are shooting- but art directors do not concept based on a budget.  The agency concepts several ideas, pitches one or many more ideas to the client, and picks the concept they think will work best in their target markets. In fact, many times they shoot several spec ads, and then present it to focus groups to see which concept will land with their consumers. I&#8217;ve had this conversation before with art directors and overwhelmingly they say they concept for the product / service and the target market and shoot for that.  If an ad works and it costs $25,000 more than one that doesn&#8217;t work or represent the product well, they will spend the extra $25,0000.</p>
<p>That idea does not stand up for editorial either.  Seems as though photo editors call the photographer they want and there is no shortage of photographers willing to shoot for editorial rates.</p>
<p>I would have like to have seen more advertising photographers in the mix. While this year&#8217;s 30 were a talented group, I do not think they speak to the ad world.</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39544</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Blue, I would argue that the supply of talented, yes that&#039;s subjective,photographers to choose from is saturated beyond. And if I was in the position to hire one , why not look for newer talent that isn&#039;t bogged down with layers of production baggage.
That might literally be a choice that maintains my employment or at least postpones the inevitable. If you want to read a great analysis of contemporary photography that might help you see where this is coming from, might I suggest Charlotte Cotton&#039;s book&quot; The Photograph as Contemporary Art&quot; She explains the idea of sympathies very well and it&#039;s helped me decipher the emerging group of MAF students work that seems to be the  &quot;Haute Photographie dejour&quot;.
Simple, cerebral and lean wins in this market,  just my 2 cents. 
Thanks for your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Blue, I would argue that the supply of talented, yes that&#8217;s subjective,photographers to choose from is saturated beyond. And if I was in the position to hire one , why not look for newer talent that isn&#8217;t bogged down with layers of production baggage.<br />
That might literally be a choice that maintains my employment or at least postpones the inevitable. If you want to read a great analysis of contemporary photography that might help you see where this is coming from, might I suggest Charlotte Cotton&#8217;s book&#8221; The Photograph as Contemporary Art&#8221; She explains the idea of sympathies very well and it&#8217;s helped me decipher the emerging group of MAF students work that seems to be the  &#8220;Haute Photographie dejour&#8221;.<br />
Simple, cerebral and lean wins in this market,  just my 2 cents.<br />
Thanks for your reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39527</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@scott Rex Ely, 
I am not even talking about work for money, I am simply talking about the actual images and their (I hate to use this word to describe these photographers) creators.

Budgets are being slashed because of the irresponsible actions and years of excessive idealism by the print media , budget has nothing to do with quality, skill, or vision and passion for the craft. In fact, its that &quot;bang for your buck attitude that is degrading our industry, demoralizing our talent, and disrespecting all that photography was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@scott Rex Ely,<br />
I am not even talking about work for money, I am simply talking about the actual images and their (I hate to use this word to describe these photographers) creators.</p>
<p>Budgets are being slashed because of the irresponsible actions and years of excessive idealism by the print media , budget has nothing to do with quality, skill, or vision and passion for the craft. In fact, its that &#8220;bang for your buck attitude that is degrading our industry, demoralizing our talent, and disrespecting all that photography was.</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39519</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Blue, If you were a Photo editor or Art Director and your budgets were getting slashed, who would you think could give you more bang for your buck? Someone who looks like they have  huge production needs , you know lighting assistants, stylist, heavy post expense, that kinda of stuff? Or maybe someone who is the antithesis of that expense outlay? I think the selection is exactly prescient for the future. Lone operators making intelligent observations, with minimal bling, of any kind, photoshop, alternative delivery and jpg ready. It&#039;s survival and lean wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Blue, If you were a Photo editor or Art Director and your budgets were getting slashed, who would you think could give you more bang for your buck? Someone who looks like they have  huge production needs , you know lighting assistants, stylist, heavy post expense, that kinda of stuff? Or maybe someone who is the antithesis of that expense outlay? I think the selection is exactly prescient for the future. Lone operators making intelligent observations, with minimal bling, of any kind, photoshop, alternative delivery and jpg ready. It&#8217;s survival and lean wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39492</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i am excited to see PDN still in business, I am, saddened at the lack of energy, passion, and talent that this years 30 yields.What happened to our craft?
 While a few really stand-out as great image makers, the rest feel like a lazy, bland snapshot. It makes me feel like I have not eaten when I look at some of these images. 
The banal composition, subjects and lighting, the seeming lack of any motivation to actually capture something great. 
Its as if some of these &quot;photographers&quot; just throw a dart at a pile of images and say &quot;oh, that one is cool&quot; when in fact it is so flavorless it starts to blend into the desaturated masses of sub-par images already clogging our visual world. It would be one thing if the horrible photos had great subjects, but alas, no, its just pure horridness on both ends of the lens, like some type of mediocre visual diarrhea.
I am looking forward to the next generation of image makers and creative shot callers who will actually help bring in a renaissance. If I see one more bland faced, statue pose, tree-bark, blurry, flat lit image of nothing I think I am going to start shooting for a stock agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i am excited to see PDN still in business, I am, saddened at the lack of energy, passion, and talent that this years 30 yields.What happened to our craft?<br />
 While a few really stand-out as great image makers, the rest feel like a lazy, bland snapshot. It makes me feel like I have not eaten when I look at some of these images.<br />
The banal composition, subjects and lighting, the seeming lack of any motivation to actually capture something great.<br />
Its as if some of these &#8220;photographers&#8221; just throw a dart at a pile of images and say &#8220;oh, that one is cool&#8221; when in fact it is so flavorless it starts to blend into the desaturated masses of sub-par images already clogging our visual world. It would be one thing if the horrible photos had great subjects, but alas, no, its just pure horridness on both ends of the lens, like some type of mediocre visual diarrhea.<br />
I am looking forward to the next generation of image makers and creative shot callers who will actually help bring in a renaissance. If I see one more bland faced, statue pose, tree-bark, blurry, flat lit image of nothing I think I am going to start shooting for a stock agency.</p>
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		<title>By: 10,000 hours in</title>
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		<dc:creator>10,000 hours in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Old &amp; In The Way, That was my exact reaction.  I guess they were worried they&#039;d run out of good photographers under 30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Old &amp; In The Way, That was my exact reaction.  I guess they were worried they&#8217;d run out of good photographers under 30.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Shipman</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39361</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Shipman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just goes to show the inbred nature of the photo industry when half the selections are from Brooklyn and surrounding environs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just goes to show the inbred nature of the photo industry when half the selections are from Brooklyn and surrounding environs.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39259</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@F., 2008 also had an argentine.</description>
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		<title>By: MH Duboix</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH Duboix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@edoardo pasero, 

Yes, Edoardo. Everyone knows that you can&#039;t possibly be a good photographer unless you live in New York. 

Even if you are an awful photographer, as long as you live in New York everyone will think you are really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@edoardo pasero, </p>
<p>Yes, Edoardo. Everyone knows that you can&#8217;t possibly be a good photographer unless you live in New York. </p>
<p>Even if you are an awful photographer, as long as you live in New York everyone will think you are really good.</p>
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		<title>By: jrayon.net &#187; PDN&#8217;s 30 - 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39242</link>
		<dc:creator>jrayon.net &#187; PDN&#8217;s 30 - 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] de los fotógrafos y sus webs y un interesante debate sobre este trabajo (puedes leer su artículo aquí). La siguiente lista está elaborada por [...]</description>
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		<title>By: edoardo pasero</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39224</link>
		<dc:creator>edoardo pasero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is to live in new york the only way to be considered for an italian photograher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is to live in new york the only way to be considered for an italian photograher?</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39215</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@snapper, I hope it didn&#039;t come across as  whining.  I was legitimately curious about PDN and if they accepted fashion submissions.  :)  And thank you for the complement!  Keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@snapper, I hope it didn&#8217;t come across as  whining.  I was legitimately curious about PDN and if they accepted fashion submissions.  :)  And thank you for the complement!  Keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39203</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GTFU, These are selections by a certain group of people who have certain artistic tastes. There are no right or wrong selections. To borrow from the cliche&#039;, it&#039;s all subjective.  The problem is that some people feel that PDN is a validation of being a good photographer and that&#039;s not necessarily the case.  It simply means that THIS group of jurors found these artists to be noteworthy.  Being a part of this group means that you&#039;re one of the top 30 emerging photographers according to this jury. Another jury might choose an entirely different group, all according to various artistic, as well as other factors.

I congratulate the winners of this years &#039;Top 30&#039; and hope that the attention brings new opportunities for you.  For others who didn&#039;t make the cut, keep shooting from your heart, not for attention.  Validation comes from those who view your work and can clearly hear what your images are saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GTFU, These are selections by a certain group of people who have certain artistic tastes. There are no right or wrong selections. To borrow from the cliche&#8217;, it&#8217;s all subjective.  The problem is that some people feel that PDN is a validation of being a good photographer and that&#8217;s not necessarily the case.  It simply means that THIS group of jurors found these artists to be noteworthy.  Being a part of this group means that you&#8217;re one of the top 30 emerging photographers according to this jury. Another jury might choose an entirely different group, all according to various artistic, as well as other factors.</p>
<p>I congratulate the winners of this years &#8216;Top 30&#8242; and hope that the attention brings new opportunities for you.  For others who didn&#8217;t make the cut, keep shooting from your heart, not for attention.  Validation comes from those who view your work and can clearly hear what your images are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks for March 5th → Quality Peoples</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks for March 5th → Quality Peoples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Photo Editor - PDN 30 Photographers To Watch- 2009all the photographs linked up. some insane photography here. prepare to lose valuable work time.   This entry was posted in bookmarks and tagged alaia, books, delicious, film, flash, graphicdesign, inspiration, marketing, Photography, puertoescondido, streetart, surfing, typography, video, webcam, webdesign. Bookmark the permalink. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.   &#171; Mexican Folk Typography Lil&#8217; Man turns one month old &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GTFU</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTFU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a magazine that you all say is irrelevant, you all seem to be hurt by not being selected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a magazine that you all say is irrelevant, you all seem to be hurt by not being selected.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It used to be more like a mix of fashion, still life and fine arts shooters in the PDN 30s, photographer like Clang ,Toledano or Alec Soth and many more are having great success in commercial and fine art photography(rightfully so), also i think Tarin Symon was one of the PDN 30s and she is a superb  fine art photographer. Now Pdn judges are choosing more fine art photographers but they also have sport and still life and  i think it&#039;s great that it&#039;s different than 3 or 4 years ago and maybe next year will be more fashion or ads photographers. Most of the times they got it right and i am not an art critic but i really like the selection this year, they even put a couple of still life photographers and that&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It used to be more like a mix of fashion, still life and fine arts shooters in the PDN 30s, photographer like Clang ,Toledano or Alec Soth and many more are having great success in commercial and fine art photography(rightfully so), also i think Tarin Symon was one of the PDN 30s and she is a superb  fine art photographer. Now Pdn judges are choosing more fine art photographers but they also have sport and still life and  i think it&#8217;s great that it&#8217;s different than 3 or 4 years ago and maybe next year will be more fashion or ads photographers. Most of the times they got it right and i am not an art critic but i really like the selection this year, they even put a couple of still life photographers and that&#8217;s great.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Weiss</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39155</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anon,</description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TWELVE of the chosen photographers are from New York???? 

That&#039;s laughably biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TWELVE of the chosen photographers are from New York???? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s laughably biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39151</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m simultaneously blown away and excited a primarily snowboard (Cole Barash) photographer was included by PDN.

Cole, if anyone in our circle, deserves this most readily.

Interesting that someone at PDN was aware enough to step outside still life shoots, silvershotz issues and soho to scope whats going on in such a niche market.. and nail down Cole as the guy who&#039;s changing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m simultaneously blown away and excited a primarily snowboard (Cole Barash) photographer was included by PDN.</p>
<p>Cole, if anyone in our circle, deserves this most readily.</p>
<p>Interesting that someone at PDN was aware enough to step outside still life shoots, silvershotz issues and soho to scope whats going on in such a niche market.. and nail down Cole as the guy who&#8217;s changing it.</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39147</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thomas Pickard, What caught my eye was Rob used &quot;fine art&quot; for 11 of the photographers and that was mixed between describing the content or the delivery and &quot;Modern  aesthetic&quot; for just one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thomas Pickard, What caught my eye was Rob used &#8220;fine art&#8221; for 11 of the photographers and that was mixed between describing the content or the delivery and &#8220;Modern  aesthetic&#8221; for just one.</p>
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		<title>By: snapper</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39146</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan, 
Thank you for submitting to the PDN 30! While your work is certainly engaging, it lacks the &quot;realness&quot; that we are looking for. This year we thought we&#039;d focus on youth in New York. We found that &quot;contrived&quot; shots like yours did not hold up against &quot;random&quot; &quot;environmental&quot; photographs like Hipsters having hip cereal looking hip. 
Please shell out next year! And remember, we can&#039;t guarantee your selection if you&#039;re not from New York! 
Yours, 
The Jury.  

In all seriousness, Jan your work is TIGHT. As an editor, I would submit your stuff to Wallpaper or Surface for their annual design/photography awards. MUCH more respect there from the industry. PDN is little more than your mom trying to fit in with the kids.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan,<br />
Thank you for submitting to the PDN 30! While your work is certainly engaging, it lacks the &#8220;realness&#8221; that we are looking for. This year we thought we&#8217;d focus on youth in New York. We found that &#8220;contrived&#8221; shots like yours did not hold up against &#8220;random&#8221; &#8220;environmental&#8221; photographs like Hipsters having hip cereal looking hip.<br />
Please shell out next year! And remember, we can&#8217;t guarantee your selection if you&#8217;re not from New York!<br />
Yours,<br />
The Jury.  </p>
<p>In all seriousness, Jan your work is TIGHT. As an editor, I would submit your stuff to Wallpaper or Surface for their annual design/photography awards. MUCH more respect there from the industry. PDN is little more than your mom trying to fit in with the kids&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: snapper</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39144</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@shane, 
1) Be from Brooklyn
2) Have hipster friends doing one of two things: being &quot;outrageous&quot; OR looking despondent and sullen (in hipster clothes). 
3) look at LOTS of McGinley and Richardson...whose book Terryworld they give out with your security deposit in BKLYN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@shane,<br />
1) Be from Brooklyn<br />
2) Have hipster friends doing one of two things: being &#8220;outrageous&#8221; OR looking despondent and sullen (in hipster clothes).<br />
3) look at LOTS of McGinley and Richardson&#8230;whose book Terryworld they give out with your security deposit in BKLYN.</p>
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		<title>By: snapper</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39143</link>
		<dc:creator>snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam, 
are you serious? if they added the UK there would be one less slot for Brooklyn hipsters. 
Hipsters with cereal boxes and popping the finger? Didn&#039;t Terry pull this like a decade ago? If that was on Flickr NO ONE would take a second look much less comment. 
Hipsters on the grass. Hipsters in &quot;polaroid style&quot; Hipsters in Alpaca hats, hipsters with their backs turned....tell me again how this is good photography? 
and no, I didn&#039;t submit. And I&#039;m under 35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam,<br />
are you serious? if they added the UK there would be one less slot for Brooklyn hipsters.<br />
Hipsters with cereal boxes and popping the finger? Didn&#8217;t Terry pull this like a decade ago? If that was on Flickr NO ONE would take a second look much less comment.<br />
Hipsters on the grass. Hipsters in &#8220;polaroid style&#8221; Hipsters in Alpaca hats, hipsters with their backs turned&#8230;.tell me again how this is good photography?<br />
and no, I didn&#8217;t submit. And I&#8217;m under 35.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Pickard</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39141</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@A Photo Editor, 
I like the &#039;with a modern aesthetic&#039;. Jeff Hutchen&#039;s work reminds me a bit of Michael Christopher Brown&#039;s work and I think your description APE is spot on. Thanks for the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@A Photo Editor,<br />
I like the &#8216;with a modern aesthetic&#8217;. Jeff Hutchen&#8217;s work reminds me a bit of Michael Christopher Brown&#8217;s work and I think your description APE is spot on. Thanks for the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39137</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8 (and other n00bz), save you 3 clicks:

http://www.pdngallery.com/gallery/pdns30/2009/flash_module.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8 (and other n00bz), save you 3 clicks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pdngallery.com/gallery/pdns30/2009/flash_module.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.pdngallery.com/gallery/pdns30/2009/flash_module.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/04/pdn-30-photographers-to-watch-2009/#comment-39135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No fashion what so ever...?  Is there a prejudice against color and fashion in general...?  Or is PDN geared toward reportage, fine art etc...  unequivocally?  I thought it leaned toward great photo&#039;s in general...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No fashion what so ever&#8230;?  Is there a prejudice against color and fashion in general&#8230;?  Or is PDN geared toward reportage, fine art etc&#8230;  unequivocally?  I thought it leaned toward great photo&#8217;s in general&#8230;</p>
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