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		<title>By: Joubobept</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-49653</link>
		<dc:creator>Joubobept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to provide <a href="http://theinvestblog.com" rel="nofollow">here </a> an interesting<br />
type of making money.  Do you know a person<br />
can make up to  3% a per day through investments  without limitations in sums ?<br />
I mean  that even if one has US$1.000,00 one may earn  the same amount  in a monthly!</p>
<p>If anyone gets interested welcome to my blog <a href="http://www.theinvestblog.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.theinvestblog.com.</a></p>
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		<title>By: il futuro dei giornali (e dei fotografi editoriali) &#171; il fotografo laterale - blog di Paolo Nobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>il futuro dei giornali (e dei fotografi editoriali) &#171; il fotografo laterale - blog di Paolo Nobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interessante per noi fotografi, visto che ci chiedono sempre di abbassare i costi e vi invito a leggerlo e ad osservare in particolare i costi dei collaboratori versus altri costi come carta, stampa e [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] interessante per noi fotografi, visto che ci chiedono sempre di abbassare i costi e vi invito a leggerlo e ad osservare in particolare i costi dei collaboratori versus altri costi come carta, stampa e [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Jeanne Conte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne Conte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I created a magazine from scratch in 2006. It was a regional glossy about art, fashion and design. It was called hipStyle (you can google it). It lasted a year.
I made money on the first issue, but began to lose money because I couldn&#039;t get good ad sales people. We relied on ad sales for profit. I learned a lot and I wrote, photographed and conceived the whole thing myself. I had a great time and quit right before the economy tanked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I created a magazine from scratch in 2006. It was a regional glossy about art, fashion and design. It was called hipStyle (you can google it). It lasted a year.<br />
I made money on the first issue, but began to lose money because I couldn&#8217;t get good ad sales people. We relied on ad sales for profit. I learned a lot and I wrote, photographed and conceived the whole thing myself. I had a great time and quit right before the economy tanked.</p>
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		<title>By: Bye, Bye, Surf Mag - Surf Photos, Surf Images, Surf Photographer Dave Collyer, Surf Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bye, Bye, Surf Mag - Surf Photos, Surf Images, Surf Photographer Dave Collyer, Surf Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] magazines that has some pretty impressive titles on the list. Mags are outdated when published and costly to produce compared to their website counterpart.  Now one sees websites and blogs in some industries taking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC">[...] magazines that has some pretty impressive titles on the list. Mags are outdated when published and costly to produce compared to their website counterpart.  Now one sees websites and blogs in some industries taking [...]</div>
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		<title>By: clickblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>clickblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;JPG Magazine, un&#8217;occhiata al bilancio...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Recentemente JPG Magazine è stato rilevato e salvato dalla bancarotta.
	Una rivista con un certo seguito, ma che non è riuscita a tenere un bilancio positivo. Alcuni accusano il CEO ed il suo stipendio annuale di 500000$, ma se si guardano tutte le ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="padding: 1em; background-color: #FFF8DC"><strong>JPG Magazine, un&#8217;occhiata al bilancio&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	Recentemente JPG Magazine è stato rilevato e salvato dalla bancarotta.<br />
	Una rivista con un certo seguito, ma che non è riuscita a tenere un bilancio positivo. Alcuni accusano il CEO ed il suo stipendio annuale di 500000$, ma se si guardano tutte le &#8230;</p></div>
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		<title>By: will pattison</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39697</link>
		<dc:creator>will pattison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t agree that jpg&#039;s content was substandard.  it may not have been &quot;professional&quot; but that doesn&#039;t mean it wasn&#039;t good.  not always good, but very often beautiful, and the print quality was excellent.  what was frustrating, however, what how they sucked you into the idea that you might get published.  they freely admitted that there would be no rhyme or reason to how one might earn the elusive $100 (and a free subscription) and there was at least on occasion where a guest &quot;editor&quot; did a pretty lousy job of sticking to the theme.

anyhow, i hope they can make it work under new ownership because it was sort of a breath of fresh air among the normal photo rags, but i agree that their web presence needs some beefing up.  not sure how they do it, but they have to figure out a way to create flickr-like community enthusiasm.  but i also hate flickr....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t agree that jpg&#8217;s content was substandard.  it may not have been &#8220;professional&#8221; but that doesn&#8217;t mean it wasn&#8217;t good.  not always good, but very often beautiful, and the print quality was excellent.  what was frustrating, however, what how they sucked you into the idea that you might get published.  they freely admitted that there would be no rhyme or reason to how one might earn the elusive $100 (and a free subscription) and there was at least on occasion where a guest &#8220;editor&#8221; did a pretty lousy job of sticking to the theme.</p>
<p>anyhow, i hope they can make it work under new ownership because it was sort of a breath of fresh air among the normal photo rags, but i agree that their web presence needs some beefing up.  not sure how they do it, but they have to figure out a way to create flickr-like community enthusiasm.  but i also hate flickr&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nigel Henson, 
It&#039;s interesting because when working at a magazine the production of an issue is brutal and it seems like there&#039;s never enough people to do all the work. But, that usually all stems from a couple things: 

1.The decision makers who either can&#039;t make a decision or will not allow anyone but themselves to make all the decisions.

2. The front of book garbage and packages.

Remove those two items and you could have a very lean staff to put out a high quality product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nigel Henson,<br />
It&#8217;s interesting because when working at a magazine the production of an issue is brutal and it seems like there&#8217;s never enough people to do all the work. But, that usually all stems from a couple things: </p>
<p>1.The decision makers who either can&#8217;t make a decision or will not allow anyone but themselves to make all the decisions.</p>
<p>2. The front of book garbage and packages.</p>
<p>Remove those two items and you could have a very lean staff to put out a high quality product.</p>
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		<title>By: A Photo Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39678</link>
		<dc:creator>A Photo Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@quirkyalone, 
Actually 1 high end server costs $1000 a month so that&#039;s not unreasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@quirkyalone,<br />
Actually 1 high end server costs $1000 a month so that&#8217;s not unreasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: quirkyalone</title>
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		<dc:creator>quirkyalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; $5,000 for website hosting

That&#039;s a MONTHLY number, right? Lavish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; $5,000 for website hosting</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a MONTHLY number, right? Lavish.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology news for 2009-03-10 &#124; Technology News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology news for 2009-03-10 &#124; Technology News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Minnesota Valley Photography Club &#187; Sex, Lies and Photoshop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesota Valley Photography Club &#187; Sex, Lies and Photoshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i.n.galbraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>i.n.galbraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brutal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brutal</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Henson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39615</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Henson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their newsstand revenue was higher than their ad revenue because they had basically no ads.  

Forget about Mitchell Fox&#039;s salary.  Mitchell is worth whatever he can get someone to pay him.  God bless him. 

What&#039;s interesting to me is how Mitchell spent other people&#039;s money. Start with $30k a month to the edit and design staff, plus another $20k a month to edit and design consultants. I&#039;ll go out on a limb and say it could have been done with one editor, one managing editor, one print designer, and one web designer, and everyone would have had lots of time to be really creative.  I just saved them over $300k a year before you include all of the office space they no longer need. 

I&#039;ll go out on another limb and say they could have gotten away with one web developer and maybe $50k in Joomla or Drupal freelance help. Make it $100k. We just saved them another $350k or so plus who knows how many offices. 

$400k on ad sales staff to generate $400k in billlings?  Plus another $280k on marketing? It must have been a lively office!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their newsstand revenue was higher than their ad revenue because they had basically no ads.  </p>
<p>Forget about Mitchell Fox&#8217;s salary.  Mitchell is worth whatever he can get someone to pay him.  God bless him. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me is how Mitchell spent other people&#8217;s money. Start with $30k a month to the edit and design staff, plus another $20k a month to edit and design consultants. I&#8217;ll go out on a limb and say it could have been done with one editor, one managing editor, one print designer, and one web designer, and everyone would have had lots of time to be really creative.  I just saved them over $300k a year before you include all of the office space they no longer need. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go out on another limb and say they could have gotten away with one web developer and maybe $50k in Joomla or Drupal freelance help. Make it $100k. We just saved them another $350k or so plus who knows how many offices. </p>
<p>$400k on ad sales staff to generate $400k in billlings?  Plus another $280k on marketing? It must have been a lively office!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matt, Actually, I think they call it a &quot;Source Book&quot; in the Ad Biz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt, Actually, I think they call it a &#8220;Source Book&#8221; in the Ad Biz.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39613</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jim, yes, precisely, my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jim, yes, precisely, my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruce DeBoer, 
Cachet, meaning prestige or standing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce DeBoer,<br />
Cachet, meaning prestige or standing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39611</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David O., 

Sure, I think there is room for a new venture focused on identifying up-and-coming photographers.  

There are various sites that tackle parts of the problem; but none (that I have seen) really pull the pieces together to be the industry influence leader. Getting the content mix right is a critical factor. You need to be able to attract quality photographers AND people who hire quality photographers (editors, ADs, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David O., </p>
<p>Sure, I think there is room for a new venture focused on identifying up-and-coming photographers.  </p>
<p>There are various sites that tackle parts of the problem; but none (that I have seen) really pull the pieces together to be the industry influence leader. Getting the content mix right is a critical factor. You need to be able to attract quality photographers AND people who hire quality photographers (editors, ADs, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Ailine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ailine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff Singer, ah well, I guess I should work on my understanding sarcasm in english skills then. :) 
It was just a thought which i&#039;m pretty sure some people really have, thats why I wasnt so sure if youre one them. Glad youre not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff Singer, ah well, I guess I should work on my understanding sarcasm in english skills then. :)<br />
It was just a thought which i&#8217;m pretty sure some people really have, thats why I wasnt so sure if youre one them. Glad youre not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Singer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ailine, no, not serious.  I guess I need to work on my sarcasm skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ailine, no, not serious.  I guess I need to work on my sarcasm skills.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/03/10/jpg-magazine-profit-and-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-39605</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, those numbers are crazy. Especially the negative sign at the profit line. There were a lot of negatives near the profit parts...

More importantly, I don&#039;t think people subscribed because the content was pretty poor, and unless your image/article was in the magazine, why on earth would you purchase it? I mean, it was very clearly amateur, basically substandard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, those numbers are crazy. Especially the negative sign at the profit line. There were a lot of negatives near the profit parts&#8230;</p>
<p>More importantly, I don&#8217;t think people subscribed because the content was pretty poor, and unless your image/article was in the magazine, why on earth would you purchase it? I mean, it was very clearly amateur, basically substandard.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff Singer, Sounds like this:

http://www.focusmag.info/

Word on the street is that photographers/galleries pay top dollar for a spread in Focus. I know a photographer that shelled out over a thousand dollars for the &quot;opportunity&quot; that Focus provides...sucker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff Singer, Sounds like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.focusmag.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.focusmag.info/</a></p>
<p>Word on the street is that photographers/galleries pay top dollar for a spread in Focus. I know a photographer that shelled out over a thousand dollars for the &#8220;opportunity&#8221; that Focus provides&#8230;sucker.</p>
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		<title>By: David O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom
 I forgot to mentioned that what you mentioned has been done, and successfully done. For example Communication arts has an annual best of competition that is practically open to everyone, and provides great exposure, so does photo district news. So the question is there room for more. Moroever they need to do a better job marketing, I never heard of JPEG Magazine until they were in financial trouble.

I know Digital SLR photography magazine, provides critical assessment. I think it&#039;s important when developing skill, to have that. it&#039;s something you experience when you go to school for photography or art school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom<br />
 I forgot to mentioned that what you mentioned has been done, and successfully done. For example Communication arts has an annual best of competition that is practically open to everyone, and provides great exposure, so does photo district news. So the question is there room for more. Moroever they need to do a better job marketing, I never heard of JPEG Magazine until they were in financial trouble.</p>
<p>I know Digital SLR photography magazine, provides critical assessment. I think it&#8217;s important when developing skill, to have that. it&#8217;s something you experience when you go to school for photography or art school.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff Singer, Exactly!  I got another idea: don&#039;t guarantee they&#039;d get published for $100 - make each photo go through a panel of &quot;experts&quot; so inclusion has some Cache to it.  Oh! Wait ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff Singer, Exactly!  I got another idea: don&#8217;t guarantee they&#8217;d get published for $100 &#8211; make each photo go through a panel of &#8220;experts&#8221; so inclusion has some Cache to it.  Oh! Wait &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ailine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ailine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeff Singer, 

are you serious about that? That would turn any magazine into a stupid advertorial where only the ones with money can be published and these who want to. I dont think that any photographer on the planet should have to pay to show their work. The whole thought of JPEG would be destroyed then. Really not an option here and rather not thought through. 

What they could do, is just showing them, without any money involved, from no side. That would at least reduce the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff Singer, </p>
<p>are you serious about that? That would turn any magazine into a stupid advertorial where only the ones with money can be published and these who want to. I dont think that any photographer on the planet should have to pay to show their work. The whole thought of JPEG would be destroyed then. Really not an option here and rather not thought through. </p>
<p>What they could do, is just showing them, without any money involved, from no side. That would at least reduce the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@todd huffman, Why I don&#039;t lament their demise.</description>
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		<title>By: David O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom, 

I totally agree.</description>
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<p>I totally agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David O., 

I agree the print magazine offered decent photographers the opportunity to get published and that opportunity set JPEG Mag apart from other Web sites.  

Perhaps if they had started smaller -- for instance publish an annual &quot;Best of 20XX&quot; printed edition which could have been used as a marketing giveaway with new subscriptions as well as a vehicle for publishing the work of photographers.  Then, as subscriptions grew, they could publish something quarterly, then go monthly.  

As it stands the printing and distribution costs simply ate them alive.  And they couldn&#039;t get enough paid subscriptions (again because the price was too high) to offset the costs.  Without the paid subscriptions, potential advertisers were probably cool to spending money on the publication.  So it was probably an inevitable downward spiral.  

I also wonder whether if, instead of sinking so much money in printing, had JPEG Mag spent money on getting some recognized names in photography to contribute some commentary, it might have had similar benefit to photographers looking for some recognition.  

There&#039;s this whole budding industry of &quot;portfolio reviews&quot; by people who at least claim to be successful photographers.  I know Rob published something a few weeks back questioning the value of such things, and I&#039;m a little skeptical myself.  But there is a voracious demand for legitimate critical assessment of photographers&#039; work.  I think there might have been some unique value JPEG could have added to a Web product that would have cost much, much less than monthly printing costs and still created a opportunity to give good photographers some recognition.  Then, a more modest subscription fee might have been an easier sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David O., </p>
<p>I agree the print magazine offered decent photographers the opportunity to get published and that opportunity set JPEG Mag apart from other Web sites.  </p>
<p>Perhaps if they had started smaller &#8212; for instance publish an annual &#8220;Best of 20XX&#8221; printed edition which could have been used as a marketing giveaway with new subscriptions as well as a vehicle for publishing the work of photographers.  Then, as subscriptions grew, they could publish something quarterly, then go monthly.  </p>
<p>As it stands the printing and distribution costs simply ate them alive.  And they couldn&#8217;t get enough paid subscriptions (again because the price was too high) to offset the costs.  Without the paid subscriptions, potential advertisers were probably cool to spending money on the publication.  So it was probably an inevitable downward spiral.  </p>
<p>I also wonder whether if, instead of sinking so much money in printing, had JPEG Mag spent money on getting some recognized names in photography to contribute some commentary, it might have had similar benefit to photographers looking for some recognition.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s this whole budding industry of &#8220;portfolio reviews&#8221; by people who at least claim to be successful photographers.  I know Rob published something a few weeks back questioning the value of such things, and I&#8217;m a little skeptical myself.  But there is a voracious demand for legitimate critical assessment of photographers&#8217; work.  I think there might have been some unique value JPEG could have added to a Web product that would have cost much, much less than monthly printing costs and still created a opportunity to give good photographers some recognition.  Then, a more modest subscription fee might have been an easier sell.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead model...abandon ship!!

Print should be reserved for boutique publications that have the subscribers willing to pay for premium content...such as monocle/purple etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead model&#8230;abandon ship!!</p>
<p>Print should be reserved for boutique publications that have the subscribers willing to pay for premium content&#8230;such as monocle/purple etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Singer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what they can do... rather than paying the photographers an exorbitant $100 to run their photo in the magazine... they CHARGE the photographer $100 for the privilege of being in the magazine!

I know I&#039;d sign up for that and I&#039;m sure there would be thousands of Flickr users clamoring to get in on that action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what they can do&#8230; rather than paying the photographers an exorbitant $100 to run their photo in the magazine&#8230; they CHARGE the photographer $100 for the privilege of being in the magazine!</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;d sign up for that and I&#8217;m sure there would be thousands of Flickr users clamoring to get in on that action.</p>
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		<title>By: Giulio Sciorio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giulio Sciorio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rich persons game indeed. Every time I meet a magazine owner they are new to money and for some reason they think they can make a magazine work. Every time they fail I laugh my ass off. The first one to figure out how to make an online mag work will be rich truly. I doubt however it will be some rich fool. The future is probably being made right now in some small dark apt by college kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rich persons game indeed. Every time I meet a magazine owner they are new to money and for some reason they think they can make a magazine work. Every time they fail I laugh my ass off. The first one to figure out how to make an online mag work will be rich truly. I doubt however it will be some rich fool. The future is probably being made right now in some small dark apt by college kids.</p>
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