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	<title>Comments on: Ryan McGinley &#8211; Jeans Photographer</title>
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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Andre Friedmann</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-75566</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre Friedmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donnar Party,
Never underestimate the importance of excellent teeth.
Excellent teeth are an extremely important &quot;marker&quot; of economic class in American society.  We use this marker to sort out those who belong in the conference room (because their parents were wealthy enough to afford orthodontia) from those who do not belong (because their parents were poor or working class).
Never underestimate this marker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donnar Party,<br />
Never underestimate the importance of excellent teeth.<br />
Excellent teeth are an extremely important &#8220;marker&#8221; of economic class in American society.  We use this marker to sort out those who belong in the conference room (because their parents were wealthy enough to afford orthodontia) from those who do not belong (because their parents were poor or working class).<br />
Never underestimate this marker.</p>
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		<title>By: ididntasktobeborn</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-69955</link>
		<dc:creator>ididntasktobeborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate Ryan McGinley. He got famous because he partied in NYC when he was young and going to Parsons, and he shot heroine with the right people. 

His work is not an honest depiction of his &quot;worth&quot;. He is not the &quot;hipster&quot; or the archetype subculture &quot;cool kid&quot; he makes you think he is. He grew up in New Jersey from a pretty well off family. 

THIS IS THE FACT:
He is a 30-something man who admits to not even knowing how to use a manual camera. He uses a point and shoot to take pictures of 18 year olds who he pays THOUSANDS of dollars with money he made shooting commercial ads for products like Dentyne Ice. He makes his models take photos, too, and everyone puts their film into the same bag at the end of the day. 

AND WHAT THE FUCK IS MOONMILK ANYWAY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Ryan McGinley. He got famous because he partied in NYC when he was young and going to Parsons, and he shot heroine with the right people. </p>
<p>His work is not an honest depiction of his &#8220;worth&#8221;. He is not the &#8220;hipster&#8221; or the archetype subculture &#8220;cool kid&#8221; he makes you think he is. He grew up in New Jersey from a pretty well off family. </p>
<p>THIS IS THE FACT:<br />
He is a 30-something man who admits to not even knowing how to use a manual camera. He uses a point and shoot to take pictures of 18 year olds who he pays THOUSANDS of dollars with money he made shooting commercial ads for products like Dentyne Ice. He makes his models take photos, too, and everyone puts their film into the same bag at the end of the day. </p>
<p>AND WHAT THE FUCK IS MOONMILK ANYWAY?</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob Hann, 

someone gets it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob Hann, </p>
<p>someone gets it!</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob, 
Self-absorption?   I don&#039;t know how anyone can be a photographer and not be self-absorbed to a degree. The whole point of being a photographer is to show others your view of the world, in a way that is completely yours, and you have to be absorbed into oneself to do that with any kind of gusto.

If his work were mature it would be boring. The interest is in it&#039;s youth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob,<br />
Self-absorption?   I don&#8217;t know how anyone can be a photographer and not be self-absorbed to a degree. The whole point of being a photographer is to show others your view of the world, in a way that is completely yours, and you have to be absorbed into oneself to do that with any kind of gusto.</p>
<p>If his work were mature it would be boring. The interest is in it&#8217;s youth.<br />
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@johann, 

The look of his photographs being not technically accurate is his look.  It&#039;s nostalgic, lovely, innocent and sexual all at the same time.  You are right.

He wasn&#039;t in the right place at the right time to get these campaigns, as some photographers are guessing.  The brand wanted his look- and probably for good reasons.

I&#039;ve been reading the Huffingtonpost lately, and there is a story about NY billboards, with sexy jeans/fashion ads.  They are blatantly sexual, lit slick, with high fashion models, all in various states of undress.  We&#039;ve all seen it done a million times.

McGinley&#039;s ads look nothing like that, and make the brand pop amoung the competition.  It is a clever placement of things being toned down and simple, un techinical, and nostalgic in a time when many people are longing for the past and better times.  

Not sure why you&#039;d hire the same photographer as your competitor, however, when you compare the fashion billboards all over NYC that are on the Huffingtonpost, they were probably shot by different photographers, but may as well have been shot by the same one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@johann, </p>
<p>The look of his photographs being not technically accurate is his look.  It&#8217;s nostalgic, lovely, innocent and sexual all at the same time.  You are right.</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t in the right place at the right time to get these campaigns, as some photographers are guessing.  The brand wanted his look- and probably for good reasons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading the Huffingtonpost lately, and there is a story about NY billboards, with sexy jeans/fashion ads.  They are blatantly sexual, lit slick, with high fashion models, all in various states of undress.  We&#8217;ve all seen it done a million times.</p>
<p>McGinley&#8217;s ads look nothing like that, and make the brand pop amoung the competition.  It is a clever placement of things being toned down and simple, un techinical, and nostalgic in a time when many people are longing for the past and better times.  </p>
<p>Not sure why you&#8217;d hire the same photographer as your competitor, however, when you compare the fashion billboards all over NYC that are on the Huffingtonpost, they were probably shot by different photographers, but may as well have been shot by the same one.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think the Wrangler campaign was much more interesting. And darker, to its benefit. But come on. If you&#039;re critical because a photographer applied the same style to 2 different campaigns then take a look a round for shits sake. And the fact that it&#039;s Levis vs. Wrangler isn&#039;t Ryan&#039;s fault. I think the pictures are different enough anyway and don&#039;t forget the average consumer (i.e. non photo geek) isn&#039;t going to notice anyway. Because who the fuck is Ryan McGinley to most people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think the Wrangler campaign was much more interesting. And darker, to its benefit. But come on. If you&#8217;re critical because a photographer applied the same style to 2 different campaigns then take a look a round for shits sake. And the fact that it&#8217;s Levis vs. Wrangler isn&#8217;t Ryan&#8217;s fault. I think the pictures are different enough anyway and don&#8217;t forget the average consumer (i.e. non photo geek) isn&#8217;t going to notice anyway. Because who the fuck is Ryan McGinley to most people?</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynthia wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly I need to start taking more naked snapshots of my friends! (With my point-and-shoot pocket camera that I always carry and regularly use.*) Except my friends are probably twice as old as Ryan McGinley&#039;s friends, so on second thought, maybe that wouldn&#039;t work out for me...

(*Just like some photographers use their iPhones. Except for some reason a photographer using his/her iPhone to take snapshots is considered &quot;revolutionary&quot; whereas using a point-and-shoot is somehow considered cheating or, at the very least, not revolutionary.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly I need to start taking more naked snapshots of my friends! (With my point-and-shoot pocket camera that I always carry and regularly use.*) Except my friends are probably twice as old as Ryan McGinley&#8217;s friends, so on second thought, maybe that wouldn&#8217;t work out for me&#8230;</p>
<p>(*Just like some photographers use their iPhones. Except for some reason a photographer using his/her iPhone to take snapshots is considered &#8220;revolutionary&#8221; whereas using a point-and-shoot is somehow considered cheating or, at the very least, not revolutionary.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Donnar Party, 

The threads on this blog have a half life shorter than fresh baked bread, so I don&#039;t know if anyone is still reading...

I&#039;ve taken a few days to really think about the work. Maybe I am missing something. So I took a step back and looked for other ways of seeing. What are others seeing (or seeing into) these images that I may have missed? 

Context is important. The advertising usage as well as the art/fashion interest is very typical. Nothing new, referencing much of my earlier take. Here&#039;s where I see a rift. For a conscious artist, one would think understanding context to be important. Pictorially these images reference cliche methods of communication often used and consumed widely in the genres referenced. But I don&#039;t see much new added - or unique &quot;commentary&quot; created. Instead the images play up easy visual devices commonly employed.  The artist would certainly have awareness of how our culture consumes some of the themes he employs. Are we amazed with his fortuity? (His work just happens to fit into fashion/advertising media so well :) ).

Had these images been done in a world which did not already have such a strong history (context) of use, I would see these images as brilliant. Instead, I see the artist just caught up in common consumer aesthetics. Witness the world we live within. Is the latest celebrity train wreck acting out a commentary, or just caught up in these times? That guy driving the car in a high speed chase, commandeering all network channel coverage - is he an artist? Is the media event of the chase his &quot;commentary&quot;? There is something amazing to behold here, but it is not an artist&#039;s commentary. More the phenomena of how the -homogenized- consumer culture functions today. 

An additional thought. Are the people posting here energized by the *artist* or by the cultural/industry context? Certainly the artist can ride along with this wave of interest and cash in, but is he the main focus of the interest as has been suggested?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Donnar Party, </p>
<p>The threads on this blog have a half life shorter than fresh baked bread, so I don&#8217;t know if anyone is still reading&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve taken a few days to really think about the work. Maybe I am missing something. So I took a step back and looked for other ways of seeing. What are others seeing (or seeing into) these images that I may have missed? </p>
<p>Context is important. The advertising usage as well as the art/fashion interest is very typical. Nothing new, referencing much of my earlier take. Here&#8217;s where I see a rift. For a conscious artist, one would think understanding context to be important. Pictorially these images reference cliche methods of communication often used and consumed widely in the genres referenced. But I don&#8217;t see much new added &#8211; or unique &#8220;commentary&#8221; created. Instead the images play up easy visual devices commonly employed.  The artist would certainly have awareness of how our culture consumes some of the themes he employs. Are we amazed with his fortuity? (His work just happens to fit into fashion/advertising media so well :) ).</p>
<p>Had these images been done in a world which did not already have such a strong history (context) of use, I would see these images as brilliant. Instead, I see the artist just caught up in common consumer aesthetics. Witness the world we live within. Is the latest celebrity train wreck acting out a commentary, or just caught up in these times? That guy driving the car in a high speed chase, commandeering all network channel coverage &#8211; is he an artist? Is the media event of the chase his &#8220;commentary&#8221;? There is something amazing to behold here, but it is not an artist&#8217;s commentary. More the phenomena of how the -homogenized- consumer culture functions today. </p>
<p>An additional thought. Are the people posting here energized by the *artist* or by the cultural/industry context? Certainly the artist can ride along with this wave of interest and cash in, but is he the main focus of the interest as has been suggested?</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TO, 

Leonardo Davinci didn&#039;t paint most of his own paintings.

Nor did most of the other renaissance artists.

Does anyone pay attention to who&#039;s behind the camera in movies?  no, its the director...

this is why art direction tends to get more respect than the crew carrying it out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TO, </p>
<p>Leonardo Davinci didn&#8217;t paint most of his own paintings.</p>
<p>Nor did most of the other renaissance artists.</p>
<p>Does anyone pay attention to who&#8217;s behind the camera in movies?  no, its the director&#8230;</p>
<p>this is why art direction tends to get more respect than the crew carrying it out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chiedozie</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46767</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiedozie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brady, 

Well Said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brady, </p>
<p>Well Said!</p>
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		<title>By: Chiedozie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiedozie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam, 

Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam, </p>
<p>Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: Reinfried Marass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reinfried Marass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;shoud&#039; should read should :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;shoud&#8217; should read should :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Reinfried Marass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reinfried Marass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... there&#039;s only ONE photographer out there who can do jeans ???

A good completion to the post on Red cams ... 
For sure you need xxx MP equipment to get advertising jobs  :-)

Sometimes all you need is a pinhole (someone who believes in your work/style may help a bit *smile)

Maybe Wrangler shoud strike back and hire Nadav Kander for their next campaign ...

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; there&#8217;s only ONE photographer out there who can do jeans ???</p>
<p>A good completion to the post on Red cams &#8230;<br />
For sure you need xxx MP equipment to get advertising jobs  :-)</p>
<p>Sometimes all you need is a pinhole (someone who believes in your work/style may help a bit *smile)</p>
<p>Maybe Wrangler shoud strike back and hire Nadav Kander for their next campaign &#8230;</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@max, u are right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@max, u are right</p>
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		<title>By: Robert P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are animals&quot; 

because we go swimming with our jeans on? Why the hell would you take off all your clothes *except your jeans, if you wanted to go jump in a lake. I mean, that would be all cold when you came out. And it&#039;s raining. 

&quot;We are idiots&quot;

&quot;We have colds&quot;


&gt;
The Wrangler campaign looks a lot darker to me, and ignoring the similarity of &quot;cute young people with no tops on&quot; are not as similar as I was expecting from the comments.


http://hypebeast.com/2009/06/ryan-mcginley-for-wrangler-ad-campaign/

http://fashionindie.com/ad-dict-levis-go-forth-by-ryan-mcginley/

RDP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are animals&#8221; </p>
<p>because we go swimming with our jeans on? Why the hell would you take off all your clothes *except your jeans, if you wanted to go jump in a lake. I mean, that would be all cold when you came out. And it&#8217;s raining. </p>
<p>&#8220;We are idiots&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We have colds&#8221;</p>
<p>&gt;<br />
The Wrangler campaign looks a lot darker to me, and ignoring the similarity of &#8220;cute young people with no tops on&#8221; are not as similar as I was expecting from the comments.</p>
<p><a href="http://hypebeast.com/2009/06/ryan-mcginley-for-wrangler-ad-campaign/" rel="nofollow">http://hypebeast.com/2009/06/ryan-mcginley-for-wrangler-ad-campaign/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://fashionindie.com/ad-dict-levis-go-forth-by-ryan-mcginley/" rel="nofollow">http://fashionindie.com/ad-dict-levis-go-forth-by-ryan-mcginley/</a></p>
<p>RDP</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is every photographer&#039;s wet dream. Sign on to shoot an ad campaign which is essentially your style but with product placement. Cash the check. Do it all over again. Are you kidding me? Don&#039;t even try to tell me like all of you wouldn&#039;t be doing the exact same thing if you could!

Am I the only one who is not going to lose any sleep thinking if wrangler or levis got ripped off and about their brand identity? Who fucking cares. I&#039;m not even a big fan of his work, but come on, stop crying like little kids. If you hate it so much, go do a better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is every photographer&#8217;s wet dream. Sign on to shoot an ad campaign which is essentially your style but with product placement. Cash the check. Do it all over again. Are you kidding me? Don&#8217;t even try to tell me like all of you wouldn&#8217;t be doing the exact same thing if you could!</p>
<p>Am I the only one who is not going to lose any sleep thinking if wrangler or levis got ripped off and about their brand identity? Who fucking cares. I&#8217;m not even a big fan of his work, but come on, stop crying like little kids. If you hate it so much, go do a better job.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwaku Kufuor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwaku Kufuor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone heard about Vibe magazine&#039;s closure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone heard about Vibe magazine&#8217;s closure?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Rood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dude, 

None taken.</description>
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<p>None taken.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steven Rood, 

Sorry.  No offense intended, but you&#039;re not as established as Ryan (and neither am I and neither is Rob, even).

I forgot to mention before: how many people posting here have had solo shows at the Whitney?</description>
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<p>Sorry.  No offense intended, but you&#8217;re not as established as Ryan (and neither am I and neither is Rob, even).</p>
<p>I forgot to mention before: how many people posting here have had solo shows at the Whitney?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can all agree that McGinley is true to himself; his work reflects what he owns.  While I can say that I don&#039;t much like the style, I can also say that I think he does a good job pulling emotion from his viewers; that alone reflects his talent.

I believe the two campaigns are way too close to forge unique brand messages.  For my money, the image style fits Levi&#039;s better than Wrangler but that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all agree that McGinley is true to himself; his work reflects what he owns.  While I can say that I don&#8217;t much like the style, I can also say that I think he does a good job pulling emotion from his viewers; that alone reflects his talent.</p>
<p>I believe the two campaigns are way too close to forge unique brand messages.  For my money, the image style fits Levi&#8217;s better than Wrangler but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46393</link>
		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the other posts but, I don&#039;t need to.  McGinley has what most people don&#039;t.  He understands that photos are about emotion. about feeling. Technical ability is nothing compared to that.  You can be the most techincally capable photog on the planet but, if you can&#039;t deal with people and make them feel comfortable and show emotion you are not providing anything of substance..  You guys criticizing his &quot;snapshot technique&quot; are too focused on technique.  Look beyond the technique.  Technique is just a tool.  people and expression are what really matter. and I would say McGinley is expressing himself pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the other posts but, I don&#8217;t need to.  McGinley has what most people don&#8217;t.  He understands that photos are about emotion. about feeling. Technical ability is nothing compared to that.  You can be the most techincally capable photog on the planet but, if you can&#8217;t deal with people and make them feel comfortable and show emotion you are not providing anything of substance..  You guys criticizing his &#8220;snapshot technique&#8221; are too focused on technique.  Look beyond the technique.  Technique is just a tool.  people and expression are what really matter. and I would say McGinley is expressing himself pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnar Party</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46391</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnar Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob, if the work were mature it would be different.  It is zeitgeist, like Mad Men but without the Danish Modern sets. Its a nostalgia for something fantastical, self absorbed, sexual w/o being vulger, an ideal of what the youngins (at least young, white people in the West) dream about when they sleep.  So yes, it is commentary, even if its just a realization of communnal desires of a certain demographic. But look, he&#039;s no Penn, no diCorcia, no Avedon, but he is someone.  Remember, he isn&#039;t even 30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob, if the work were mature it would be different.  It is zeitgeist, like Mad Men but without the Danish Modern sets. Its a nostalgia for something fantastical, self absorbed, sexual w/o being vulger, an ideal of what the youngins (at least young, white people in the West) dream about when they sleep.  So yes, it is commentary, even if its just a realization of communnal desires of a certain demographic. But look, he&#8217;s no Penn, no diCorcia, no Avedon, but he is someone.  Remember, he isn&#8217;t even 30.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Moat</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46323</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Moat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Wieden and Kennedy have this campaign. I just saw a B/W commercial with a similar style treatment. If this link works, have a view:

http://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=488e9e5c

It is on Creativity, if anyone here is a subscriber. Different director and team, but the creative direction matches the still campaign.

I will be going to a seminar with Dan Wieden in early August. If I get a chance, and remember this, I will ask about the ideas behind the Levi&#039;s campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Wieden and Kennedy have this campaign. I just saw a B/W commercial with a similar style treatment. If this link works, have a view:</p>
<p><a href="http://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=488e9e5c" rel="nofollow">http://creativity-online.com/work/view?seed=488e9e5c</a></p>
<p>It is on Creativity, if anyone here is a subscriber. Different director and team, but the creative direction matches the still campaign.</p>
<p>I will be going to a seminar with Dan Wieden in early August. If I get a chance, and remember this, I will ask about the ideas behind the Levi&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: TO</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46322</link>
		<dc:creator>TO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know when the photos are even his or when they are taken by one of his many assistants who shoot the whole time?  Maybe you really like Ryan&#039;s work but don&#039;t like assistant B&#039;s photos. hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know when the photos are even his or when they are taken by one of his many assistants who shoot the whole time?  Maybe you really like Ryan&#8217;s work but don&#8217;t like assistant B&#8217;s photos. hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbass</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46315</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob Hann, I would agree wholely with that statement...it simply is shit...Photo illustration not photography.It&#039;s fucking obvious,predictable and empty.Too many nerds who spend more time in bridge and not enough time out in someones face...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob Hann, I would agree wholely with that statement&#8230;it simply is shit&#8230;Photo illustration not photography.It&#8217;s fucking obvious,predictable and empty.Too many nerds who spend more time in bridge and not enough time out in someones face&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46310</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Others have mentioned it before, it doesn&#039;t matter much if the photos are similar (other photographers/brands/product categories do it all the time). But hasn&#039;t anyone noticed that the Wrangler and Levis are actually two very similar companies? I mean, blue jeans, come on, we&#039;re talking about an extremely generic product here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Others have mentioned it before, it doesn&#8217;t matter much if the photos are similar (other photographers/brands/product categories do it all the time). But hasn&#8217;t anyone noticed that the Wrangler and Levis are actually two very similar companies? I mean, blue jeans, come on, we&#8217;re talking about an extremely generic product here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hann</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46306</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Hann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think McGinley&#039;s work is good. What I can&#039;t stand is all the overly Photoshopped BS that is so prevalent at the moment. In my humble opinion that stuff is just horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think McGinley&#8217;s work is good. What I can&#8217;t stand is all the overly Photoshopped BS that is so prevalent at the moment. In my humble opinion that stuff is just horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46305</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is if these pics and his work generate so much hate and love he&#039; s definitely doing something good, he&#039;s getting your attention and that is the most important thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is if these pics and his work generate so much hate and love he&#8217; s definitely doing something good, he&#8217;s getting your attention and that is the most important thing.</p>
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		<title>By: GTFU Radio</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46289</link>
		<dc:creator>GTFU Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Adam, amen.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/06/30/ryan-mcginley-jeans-photographer/#comment-46278</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect to Ryan and his &quot;contributions&quot; to the photo world, every time I look at his &quot;work&quot; I feel like I am looking at something that someone for got to finish. I do think he has a lot of talent and potential I just don&#039;t feel he reaches for it with work of this caliber. His ideas are excellent, maybe even borderline brilliant but his execution of the idea just seems to fall flat. I hated this macabre campaign the first time I saw it and I hate it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to Ryan and his &#8220;contributions&#8221; to the photo world, every time I look at his &#8220;work&#8221; I feel like I am looking at something that someone for got to finish. I do think he has a lot of talent and potential I just don&#8217;t feel he reaches for it with work of this caliber. His ideas are excellent, maybe even borderline brilliant but his execution of the idea just seems to fall flat. I hated this macabre campaign the first time I saw it and I hate it now.</p>
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