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	<description>Former Photography Director Rob Haggart</description>
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		<title>By: Darkroom Branding: Marketing Strategies for Photographers &#187; The Daily Snapshot</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/10/26/the-business-of-photography-books/comment-page-1/#comment-54131</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkroom Branding: Marketing Strategies for Photographers &#187; The Daily Snapshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/10/26/the-business-of-photography-books/comment-page-1/#comment-53971</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James Warden, 
Yeah, it should read...
&quot;Bankers are sales people interested in making their monthly numbers and as long as you can convince the computer that you have income and a decent credit score then they&#039;ll cut you a check and not worry about it because they probably won&#039;t be working there anymore when you may or may not default.&quot;  That&#039;s basically it for big banks, community banks and credit unions may be different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Warden,<br />
Yeah, it should read&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Bankers are sales people interested in making their monthly numbers and as long as you can convince the computer that you have income and a decent credit score then they&#8217;ll cut you a check and not worry about it because they probably won&#8217;t be working there anymore when you may or may not default.&#8221;  That&#8217;s basically it for big banks, community banks and credit unions may be different.</p>
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		<title>By: James Warden</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2009/10/26/the-business-of-photography-books/comment-page-1/#comment-53810</link>
		<dc:creator>James Warden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A must read book but - &quot;Bankers are math people who look to make sure that if they loan you the money, you&#039;ll be able to pay them back; they have a vested interest in making sure you can do so and that you&#039;ll remain in business (p.7)&quot; seems naive and out of date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A must read book but &#8211; &#8220;Bankers are math people who look to make sure that if they loan you the money, you&#8217;ll be able to pay them back; they have a vested interest in making sure you can do so and that you&#8217;ll remain in business (p.7)&#8221; seems naive and out of date.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston Photographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boston Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the list of references. I checked out the website and it looks like I know how I will be filling a few more hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the list of references. I checked out the website and it looks like I know how I will be filling a few more hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gauthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Gauthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read John&#039;s first book and paid attention to some speaking he did for Photoshelter before it partially imploded. I&#039;ve been very impressed with him and observe anything he has to say with plenty of attention but at times, I think it can be easy to fall too far into &quot;covering my ass against my clients&quot; mode or become a little too much of a hardass towards potential clients. John obviously is good with his clients but I did feel from his first book and after talking with other photographers further along in their career than me that he could have focused on the kinder more win/win side of client interactions a little bit. I guess, what I mean is that he could stand to project a tad more sunshine  if that makes sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read John&#8217;s first book and paid attention to some speaking he did for Photoshelter before it partially imploded. I&#8217;ve been very impressed with him and observe anything he has to say with plenty of attention but at times, I think it can be easy to fall too far into &#8220;covering my ass against my clients&#8221; mode or become a little too much of a hardass towards potential clients. John obviously is good with his clients but I did feel from his first book and after talking with other photographers further along in their career than me that he could have focused on the kinder more win/win side of client interactions a little bit. I guess, what I mean is that he could stand to project a tad more sunshine  if that makes sense?</p>
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		<title>By: anoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if we could get Mr. Harrington to switch the colors scheme on his blog from the (give me a screaming headache after reading one article) black with white type, to a easier reading dark text on light background I would be grateful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if we could get Mr. Harrington to switch the colors scheme on his blog from the (give me a screaming headache after reading one article) black with white type, to a easier reading dark text on light background I would be grateful&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t trade my MBA for all the books on business ever written. Not the same, though that&#039;s not to say you can&#039;t learn a lot on your own.

Wouldn&#039;t spend money on an MFA. 

THAT, I can learn on my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t trade my MBA for all the books on business ever written. Not the same, though that&#8217;s not to say you can&#8217;t learn a lot on your own.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t spend money on an MFA. </p>
<p>THAT, I can learn on my own.</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the first business book I ever read was Everyone Poops by Taro Gomi.

  hahaha  just kidding, but on a serious note.  I found the Art of War quite correlating to daily business practices as well.  Thank you for the heads up on this book and I will be sure to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the first business book I ever read was Everyone Poops by Taro Gomi.</p>
<p>  hahaha  just kidding, but on a serious note.  I found the Art of War quite correlating to daily business practices as well.  Thank you for the heads up on this book and I will be sure to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: narayan</title>
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		<dc:creator>narayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg Ceo, 
thanks for suggesting Lou Lesko&#039;s book. I ran down to the local library and started reading it already. I like his candor and he has a lot of good, practical advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg Ceo,<br />
thanks for suggesting Lou Lesko&#8217;s book. I ran down to the local library and started reading it already. I like his candor and he has a lot of good, practical advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Deering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Deering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Harrington&#039;s book IS comprehensive. Great stuff on contracts, and just good, solid nuts and bolts stuff on a photo business. His legal knowledge of the photo business is amazing and he encourages one to copy his forms. I shot him an e-mail question about contract language in the vain hope of a reply and he frickin&#039; called me on the phone to answer my question. Highly recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Harrington&#8217;s book IS comprehensive. Great stuff on contracts, and just good, solid nuts and bolts stuff on a photo business. His legal knowledge of the photo business is amazing and he encourages one to copy his forms. I shot him an e-mail question about contract language in the vain hope of a reply and he frickin&#8217; called me on the phone to answer my question. Highly recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Giannatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Giannatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I add the new book from Gary Vaynerchuk, &quot;Crush It&quot; as a fantastic addition for photographers book lists. Small (perfect for our short attention spans) and packed, PACKED, with up-to-date info. Cannot recommend it highly enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I add the new book from Gary Vaynerchuk, &#8220;Crush It&#8221; as a fantastic addition for photographers book lists. Small (perfect for our short attention spans) and packed, PACKED, with up-to-date info. Cannot recommend it highly enough.</p>
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		<title>By: selina maitreya</title>
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		<dc:creator>selina maitreya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks as  always Rob for bringing photographers back to the business aspect.
As you are all running creative businesses it &#039;s key to read books that focus on key aspects that you might other wise miss..re marketing business AND creativity.
More additions?

The Tipping Point :Malcolm Gladwell
Guerrila Marketing:Jay Levinson
War of ART Stephen Pressfield
Focus (oldy but goody) Al Reis
Waiting For your Cat to Bark(using emerging media to promote)Jeffrey Eisenberg
The Do-It Yourslef Lobotomy(cretative thinking)Tom Monahan
Word of Mouth Marketing Andy Sernovitz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks as  always Rob for bringing photographers back to the business aspect.<br />
As you are all running creative businesses it &#8217;s key to read books that focus on key aspects that you might other wise miss..re marketing business AND creativity.<br />
More additions?</p>
<p>The Tipping Point :Malcolm Gladwell<br />
Guerrila Marketing:Jay Levinson<br />
War of ART Stephen Pressfield<br />
Focus (oldy but goody) Al Reis<br />
Waiting For your Cat to Bark(using emerging media to promote)Jeffrey Eisenberg<br />
The Do-It Yourslef Lobotomy(cretative thinking)Tom Monahan<br />
Word of Mouth Marketing Andy Sernovitz</p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of the recommendations. I&#039;m always interested in a good book or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of the recommendations. I&#8217;m always interested in a good book or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ceo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Ceo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that Skool is absolutely correct, it is about the relationships!  But it is also about providing great work to the clients that meet or exceed their expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that Skool is absolutely correct, it is about the relationships!  But it is also about providing great work to the clients that meet or exceed their expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: skool of hard knocks</title>
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		<dc:creator>skool of hard knocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up around photography,  and always felt confident in my chops. What I didn&#039;t feel comfortable with was my ability to run a business, so I went to college and earned a degree in Strategic Business Management. (I skipped out on the MBA  simply because I was tired of writing papers!)

I&#039;ve never been to an art school, but I can honestly say that I feel I have benefited more from the business school than from any photography class I could have ever taken.  I wouldn&#039;t trade my Fast Company and Inc. subscriptions for PDN any day, and marketing books in my library outnumber photo books by a huge margin. 

I couldn&#039;t tell you who has won what contest yadda yadda..I&#039;ve just always focused on my own thing and so far it&#039;s worked out just fine.  I own a commercial photography studio , so the work and approach is different than editorial, and I&#039;ll readily admit that a lot of the photography is almost like a commodity, so we&#039;ve found the effort dedicated to relationships and creating a fun atmosphere around our brand/studio has been more successful than spending countless hours trying to shoot like ABC or loosing sleep over XYZ because he&#039;s a hack and was awarded the 12345 award when &quot;I could have shot better than that&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up around photography,  and always felt confident in my chops. What I didn&#8217;t feel comfortable with was my ability to run a business, so I went to college and earned a degree in Strategic Business Management. (I skipped out on the MBA  simply because I was tired of writing papers!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been to an art school, but I can honestly say that I feel I have benefited more from the business school than from any photography class I could have ever taken.  I wouldn&#8217;t trade my Fast Company and Inc. subscriptions for PDN any day, and marketing books in my library outnumber photo books by a huge margin. </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t tell you who has won what contest yadda yadda..I&#8217;ve just always focused on my own thing and so far it&#8217;s worked out just fine.  I own a commercial photography studio , so the work and approach is different than editorial, and I&#8217;ll readily admit that a lot of the photography is almost like a commodity, so we&#8217;ve found the effort dedicated to relationships and creating a fun atmosphere around our brand/studio has been more successful than spending countless hours trying to shoot like ABC or loosing sleep over XYZ because he&#8217;s a hack and was awarded the 12345 award when &#8220;I could have shot better than that&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ceo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Ceo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally dig the ASMP Professional Business Practices in Photography, 7th Edition, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581154976

For Advertising Photography, I like Lou Lesko&#039;s Advertising Photography: A Straightforward Guide to a Complex Industry.  I love the Lou talks about his mistakes and how he learned from them.  That is so rare in this industry!

I use both of them in the course I teach on Business Practices for Photography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally dig the ASMP Professional Business Practices in Photography, 7th Edition, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581154976" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581154976</a></p>
<p>For Advertising Photography, I like Lou Lesko&#8217;s Advertising Photography: A Straightforward Guide to a Complex Industry.  I love the Lou talks about his mistakes and how he learned from them.  That is so rare in this industry!</p>
<p>I use both of them in the course I teach on Business Practices for Photography.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Mr. APhotoEditor.

Built to Last and From Good to Great have more wisdom and insight in them than most MBA&#039;s have when they graduate.

Not a slam, just an observation. Because business isn&#039;t about theory, it&#039;s about humans and all their complex motivations and actions.

As a business owner myself, nothing replaces testing your theories in the marketplace. The key is to not be afraid to experiment and come up with new thinking and new approaches. It&#039;s what will fill up the business books to come.

But it&#039;s almost more important to think like an anthropologist than like a business person.

Doug Lowell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Mr. APhotoEditor.</p>
<p>Built to Last and From Good to Great have more wisdom and insight in them than most MBA&#8217;s have when they graduate.</p>
<p>Not a slam, just an observation. Because business isn&#8217;t about theory, it&#8217;s about humans and all their complex motivations and actions.</p>
<p>As a business owner myself, nothing replaces testing your theories in the marketplace. The key is to not be afraid to experiment and come up with new thinking and new approaches. It&#8217;s what will fill up the business books to come.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s almost more important to think like an anthropologist than like a business person.</p>
<p>Doug Lowell</p>
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