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		<title>By: Le foto degli altri &#171; fotografia e parole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le foto degli altri &#171; fotografia e parole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pubblico maschile). Il blog &#8220;A Photoeditor&#8221; ha ripreso l&#8217;argomento due anni dopo, approfondendo il rapporto tra l&#8217;Autore dell&#8217;opera originale e l&#8217;artista che si è approriato [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pubblico maschile). Il blog &#8220;A Photoeditor&#8221; ha ripreso l&#8217;argomento due anni dopo, approfondendo il rapporto tra l&#8217;Autore dell&#8217;opera originale e l&#8217;artista che si è approriato [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oil abstract painting</title>
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		<dc:creator>oil abstract painting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i do think of which,The condition for dangerous travel related has caused varied criminal court problem in the modern times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do think of which,The condition for dangerous travel related has caused varied criminal court problem in the modern times.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-69829</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mason, Well said. However we still need to hold people to account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mason, Well said. However we still need to hold people to account.</p>
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		<title>By: John Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-62468</link>
		<dc:creator>John Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy that this is working for Jim. He is, quite simply, a gentleman about this and deserves major accolades for his work. I have worked with him on two projects and can say he &quot;delivers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy that this is working for Jim. He is, quite simply, a gentleman about this and deserves major accolades for his work. I have worked with him on two projects and can say he &#8220;delivers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: harlan erskine</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-59078</link>
		<dc:creator>harlan erskine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gordon Moat, I agree with you that commentary doesn&#039;t equate to something that is creative. Commentary is not always lucrative when Prince first created his Cowboy series is wasn&#039;t lucrative. When his work sells at auction unless he is selling it he doesn&#039;t get any kick back from the sale or increase in value over the years.

Good art has a perspective and Prince effectively communicated something about our culture that still resonates to this day. He has also proved he is more then a one trick pony of an artist and if you take a look at he work you can see he is also a prolific painter and sculptor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gordon Moat, I agree with you that commentary doesn&#8217;t equate to something that is creative. Commentary is not always lucrative when Prince first created his Cowboy series is wasn&#8217;t lucrative. When his work sells at auction unless he is selling it he doesn&#8217;t get any kick back from the sale or increase in value over the years.</p>
<p>Good art has a perspective and Prince effectively communicated something about our culture that still resonates to this day. He has also proved he is more then a one trick pony of an artist and if you take a look at he work you can see he is also a prolific painter and sculptor.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Moat</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-59076</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Moat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@harlan erskine, Commentary is not creativity, but it seems to be a lucrative outlet for those who lack originality. If all we could accomplish as artists were commentary based upon the work of others, then art would quickly become irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@harlan erskine, Commentary is not creativity, but it seems to be a lucrative outlet for those who lack originality. If all we could accomplish as artists were commentary based upon the work of others, then art would quickly become irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: harlan erskine</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-59074</link>
		<dc:creator>harlan erskine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go into the argument (for Richard Prince) a little further in my post &quot;On Originality&quot; here:

http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2010/02/on-originality.html

Also, tonight Todd Walker (http://www.ocularoctopus.com/) and I will be hosting a tweetchat w/ guest David Bram @Dbram of @FractionMag, on influences &amp; originality in photography for our biweekly tweetchat #artphotochat.

Join in tonight at 9 pm EST.

These Art Photography chats anyone can join in or just read it live by using the hashtag #photoartchat on Twitter. One easier way to transform twitter into a chat room is Tweetchat.com and entering the photoartchat room here: http://tweetchat.com/room/photoartchat.

a previous chat:
http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2009/12/tuesdays-art-photo-tweetchat-continuing.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go into the argument (for Richard Prince) a little further in my post &#8220;On Originality&#8221; here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2010/02/on-originality.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2010/02/on-originality.html</a></p>
<p>Also, tonight Todd Walker (<a href="http://www.ocularoctopus.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocularoctopus.com/</a>) and I will be hosting a tweetchat w/ guest David Bram @Dbram of @FractionMag, on influences &amp; originality in photography for our biweekly tweetchat #artphotochat.</p>
<p>Join in tonight at 9 pm EST.</p>
<p>These Art Photography chats anyone can join in or just read it live by using the hashtag #photoartchat on Twitter. One easier way to transform twitter into a chat room is Tweetchat.com and entering the photoartchat room here: <a href="http://tweetchat.com/room/photoartchat" rel="nofollow">http://tweetchat.com/room/photoartchat</a>.</p>
<p>a previous chat:<br />
<a href="http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2009/12/tuesdays-art-photo-tweetchat-continuing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.harlanerskine.com/blog/2009/12/tuesdays-art-photo-tweetchat-continuing.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: harlan erskine</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-59073</link>
		<dc:creator>harlan erskine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy Anderson, Sorry but calling Richard Prince&#039;s work is a cop out for understanding what he is doing. Its it stealing when something gets sampled and remixed? Prince is commenting on the larger culture of image making. Its not just fair use Its successful art in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy Anderson, Sorry but calling Richard Prince&#8217;s work is a cop out for understanding what he is doing. Its it stealing when something gets sampled and remixed? Prince is commenting on the larger culture of image making. Its not just fair use Its successful art in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: doktor</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56966</link>
		<dc:creator>doktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.bombsite.com/issues/24/articles/1090</description>
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		<title>By: doktor</title>
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		<dc:creator>doktor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theres a lot of bad things to be said about the art world but contrary to what photographers like to think Richard Prince hardly is one of the bad guys in that part of hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theres a lot of bad things to be said about the art world but contrary to what photographers like to think Richard Prince hardly is one of the bad guys in that part of hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Cairncross</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56758</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Cairncross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it&#039;s all hogwash, and to make something out of dismantling an advertisement, he is not in fact arriving at something new at all. The photographs were shot that way to begin with.
I can see on the subject of  &#039;is it art?&#039; how the act of dismantling is the *work* itself, the art if you will, because his perspective is trying to break down that corporate image of marketing etc.

I think Mr Prince needs to find a new approach to his art that doesn&#039;t involve stealing other&#039;s hard work.

Yes, some may only know of Krantz through Prince, but those Marlboro ads are pretty famous on their own, Prince just seems to have interfered when it comes to that.
Maybe if he even bothered to find out who shot those photos and involved them in his art,  Krantz may have had the exposure because of it that Prince had.

from Wiki:

&quot;The subjects of Prince’s rephotographs are the photos of others. He is merely photographing the works of other photographers, who in the case of the cowboys, had been hired by Marlboro Cigarettes to create images depicting cowboys. Prince describes his process in a 2003 interview with Artforum International Magazine’s Steve Lafreiniere as, “I had limited technical skills regarding the camera. Actually I had no skills. I played the camera. I used a cheap commercial lab to blow up the pictures. I made editions of two. I never went into a darkroom.”[5]

Prince was a spectator to the imagery of others and decided to approach it in a new manner, interpret it in his own way, while challenging the socially accepted. Prince’s naivety to photography can potentially be accredited with the success of his earth shaking work. Just where do you draw the line as to what is a reflection of inspirational works and what is just down right thievery? But through his thievery he is creating something new, something Richard Prince. At the end of the day he is still dismantling the original, whether it is greatly noticeable or not&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it&#8217;s all hogwash, and to make something out of dismantling an advertisement, he is not in fact arriving at something new at all. The photographs were shot that way to begin with.<br />
I can see on the subject of  &#8216;is it art?&#8217; how the act of dismantling is the *work* itself, the art if you will, because his perspective is trying to break down that corporate image of marketing etc.</p>
<p>I think Mr Prince needs to find a new approach to his art that doesn&#8217;t involve stealing other&#8217;s hard work.</p>
<p>Yes, some may only know of Krantz through Prince, but those Marlboro ads are pretty famous on their own, Prince just seems to have interfered when it comes to that.<br />
Maybe if he even bothered to find out who shot those photos and involved them in his art,  Krantz may have had the exposure because of it that Prince had.</p>
<p>from Wiki:</p>
<p>&#8220;The subjects of Prince’s rephotographs are the photos of others. He is merely photographing the works of other photographers, who in the case of the cowboys, had been hired by Marlboro Cigarettes to create images depicting cowboys. Prince describes his process in a 2003 interview with Artforum International Magazine’s Steve Lafreiniere as, “I had limited technical skills regarding the camera. Actually I had no skills. I played the camera. I used a cheap commercial lab to blow up the pictures. I made editions of two. I never went into a darkroom.”[5]</p>
<p>Prince was a spectator to the imagery of others and decided to approach it in a new manner, interpret it in his own way, while challenging the socially accepted. Prince’s naivety to photography can potentially be accredited with the success of his earth shaking work. Just where do you draw the line as to what is a reflection of inspirational works and what is just down right thievery? But through his thievery he is creating something new, something Richard Prince. At the end of the day he is still dismantling the original, whether it is greatly noticeable or not&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of Richard Prince, I know who Jim Krantz is. That&#039;s not an insult, just a sign of the times. 

Visual culture is evolving.  This is neither the beginning, nor the end of appropriate usage disputes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of Richard Prince, I know who Jim Krantz is. That&#8217;s not an insult, just a sign of the times. </p>
<p>Visual culture is evolving.  This is neither the beginning, nor the end of appropriate usage disputes.</p>
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		<title>By: john mcd.</title>
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		<dc:creator>john mcd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Byrd, the Koons comparison I get. He&#039;s an even bigger thief. But did you really just compare Richard Prince to Picasso and DaVinci? The point here is pretty simple, it&#039;s a question of copyright and, ultimately, what is and isn&#039;t Fair Use. Would you be making the same point if it were a photograher &quot;appropriating&quot; the work of another photographer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Byrd, the Koons comparison I get. He&#8217;s an even bigger thief. But did you really just compare Richard Prince to Picasso and DaVinci? The point here is pretty simple, it&#8217;s a question of copyright and, ultimately, what is and isn&#8217;t Fair Use. Would you be making the same point if it were a photograher &#8220;appropriating&#8221; the work of another photographer?</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Moat</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56626</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Moat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Byrd, All Richard Prince has proved is that if you have no morals, a &quot;fuck you&quot; attitude, and a large bankroll, then you can do whatever the fuck you want. That anyone finds that admirable, or is willing to defends that, shows how low the art world has crawled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Byrd, All Richard Prince has proved is that if you have no morals, a &#8220;fuck you&#8221; attitude, and a large bankroll, then you can do whatever the fuck you want. That anyone finds that admirable, or is willing to defends that, shows how low the art world has crawled.</p>
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		<title>By: Byrd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy Anderson, 

Ha. Are you insulting me now? Always a sign of a strong arguement, blind and unfounded attacks at those who disagree with you.

My point was just appropriation, or &quot;STEALING&quot; as you so boldly put it, has a long history in the art world. You don&#039;t hear anyone crying foul that Picasso used a newspaper article of theirs to collage with, or the American government suing Jasper Johns for his use of the American flag.

At the Met a couple years ago I remember hearing a couple middle-aged, wealthy women digging into to the Prince debate with similar insight: &quot;Ahh, it just STEALING! I don&#039;t get it. He&#039;s a plagiarist!&quot; Ten seconds later they found themselves looking at a photos of the twin towers from 9/11 photographed off a computer screen from news footage. &quot;Now THIS I like!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy Anderson, </p>
<p>Ha. Are you insulting me now? Always a sign of a strong arguement, blind and unfounded attacks at those who disagree with you.</p>
<p>My point was just appropriation, or &#8220;STEALING&#8221; as you so boldly put it, has a long history in the art world. You don&#8217;t hear anyone crying foul that Picasso used a newspaper article of theirs to collage with, or the American government suing Jasper Johns for his use of the American flag.</p>
<p>At the Met a couple years ago I remember hearing a couple middle-aged, wealthy women digging into to the Prince debate with similar insight: &#8220;Ahh, it just STEALING! I don&#8217;t get it. He&#8217;s a plagiarist!&#8221; Ten seconds later they found themselves looking at a photos of the twin towers from 9/11 photographed off a computer screen from news footage. &#8220;Now THIS I like!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56618</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Byrd, Yeah, I guess its okay until happens to you......doubtful!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Byrd, Yeah, I guess its okay until happens to you&#8230;&#8230;doubtful!!</p>
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		<title>By: Byrd</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56610</link>
		<dc:creator>Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! And while were at it, here is a short list of other &quot;artists&quot; we should be demonizing for their use of &quot;appropriation&quot;:

- Leonardo Da Vinci
- Pablo Picasso
- Georges Braque
- Marcel Duchamp
- Any of those Dadaists or Surrealists
- Jasper Johns
- Roy Lichtenstein
- Andy Warhol
- Claus Oldenburg
- Jeff Koons
- Barbara Kruger

Oh the list goes on. What a bunch of hacks, seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! And while were at it, here is a short list of other &#8220;artists&#8221; we should be demonizing for their use of &#8220;appropriation&#8221;:</p>
<p>- Leonardo Da Vinci<br />
- Pablo Picasso<br />
- Georges Braque<br />
- Marcel Duchamp<br />
- Any of those Dadaists or Surrealists<br />
- Jasper Johns<br />
- Roy Lichtenstein<br />
- Andy Warhol<br />
- Claus Oldenburg<br />
- Jeff Koons<br />
- Barbara Kruger</p>
<p>Oh the list goes on. What a bunch of hacks, seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Frieden</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56600</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Frieden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robbie, I am curious about this also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robbie, I am curious about this also.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56511</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MSK, I wonder how Prince would feel if his work was stolen....ooops!.....meant appropriated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MSK, I wonder how Prince would feel if his work was stolen&#8230;.ooops!&#8230;..meant appropriated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@john mcd., agree and grand point!</description>
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		<title>By: MSK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy Anderson, 

But we must also take into consideration the field in which Prince works as well as his intended audience. In the &quot;A&quot;rt world appropriation is a common practice that many artists engage in. 

It could be argued that a work that utilizes an appropriated image is simply a response to the original, and in that response the original is quoted.</description>
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<p>But we must also take into consideration the field in which Prince works as well as his intended audience. In the &#8220;A&#8221;rt world appropriation is a common practice that many artists engage in. </p>
<p>It could be argued that a work that utilizes an appropriated image is simply a response to the original, and in that response the original is quoted.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56495</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt Dinerstein, I agree with you Matt. It just goes to show you how absurd the whole Art Industry has become. People buying a copy stand image of an ad that ran 25 plus years ago,, and no reference to the photographer. Its a joke..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Dinerstein, I agree with you Matt. It just goes to show you how absurd the whole Art Industry has become. People buying a copy stand image of an ad that ran 25 plus years ago,, and no reference to the photographer. Its a joke..</p>
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		<title>By: john mcd.</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56456</link>
		<dc:creator>john mcd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prince is a thief and Krantz is the victim. It&#039;s Krantz&#039;s choice to shoot what he wants as it&#039;s my choice not work for tobacco companies. Someone else may come to a different decision. That doesn&#039;t necessarily make me morally superior, and it has nothing to do with whether I or the other person is a good photographer. Joel Meyerowitz is a great photographer who also made a lot of money doing what I would call forgettable pictures for cigarette ads. He is still deservedly considered a great photographer. That said, the people criticizing Krantz for shooting tobacco ads aren&#039;t the only ones on a high horse here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prince is a thief and Krantz is the victim. It&#8217;s Krantz&#8217;s choice to shoot what he wants as it&#8217;s my choice not work for tobacco companies. Someone else may come to a different decision. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily make me morally superior, and it has nothing to do with whether I or the other person is a good photographer. Joel Meyerowitz is a great photographer who also made a lot of money doing what I would call forgettable pictures for cigarette ads. He is still deservedly considered a great photographer. That said, the people criticizing Krantz for shooting tobacco ads aren&#8217;t the only ones on a high horse here.</p>
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		<title>By: john mcd.</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56454</link>
		<dc:creator>john mcd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd Korol, Well said, Todd. Krantz&#039; work didn&#039;t need to be taken to another level. It stands on its own very, very well. Richard Prince isn&#039;t even original. Jeff Koons has been using other people&#039;s work forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd Korol, Well said, Todd. Krantz&#8217; work didn&#8217;t need to be taken to another level. It stands on its own very, very well. Richard Prince isn&#8217;t even original. Jeff Koons has been using other people&#8217;s work forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56438</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MSK, does that make it right or moral? doubtful!</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56404</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, quit calling it appropriation. It is STEALING....call it that!! Next, get off the moral high horse about cigarettes, he shot these images 25 plus years ago. You take a position today for something that happened years ago is not apples to apples. 
Quit protecting Prince, he is the real demon and NOT Krantz. I guess none of you liberal&#039;s eat big macs or starbucks frappé&#039;s. But live on some planet called &quot;Nirvana&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, quit calling it appropriation. It is STEALING&#8230;.call it that!! Next, get off the moral high horse about cigarettes, he shot these images 25 plus years ago. You take a position today for something that happened years ago is not apples to apples.<br />
Quit protecting Prince, he is the real demon and NOT Krantz. I guess none of you liberal&#8217;s eat big macs or starbucks frappé&#8217;s. But live on some planet called &#8220;Nirvana&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56393</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I would call it a flagrant ripoff. There is nothing original about Prince&#039;s work other than the original photography.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Dinerstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dinerstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad Wenner, creating a dialog is one thing, getting rich off of it (with no benefits to the originator - or anti-tobacco organizations for that matter) another</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Dinerstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Dinerstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tde, Leni Riefenstahl is no less an artist for her propagandistic films. As abhorrent as the tobacco industries practices are, they are a legal enterprise - not to mention with a long history dating back to the founding of this country (perhaps that is what Prince&#039;s &#039;iconography&#039; is addressing). The issue here is not about tobacco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tde, Leni Riefenstahl is no less an artist for her propagandistic films. As abhorrent as the tobacco industries practices are, they are a legal enterprise &#8211; not to mention with a long history dating back to the founding of this country (perhaps that is what Prince&#8217;s &#8216;iconography&#8217; is addressing). The issue here is not about tobacco.</p>
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		<title>By: scott Rex Ely</title>
		<link>http://www.aphotoeditor.com/2010/01/06/jim-krantz-may-have-finally-gotten-his-attribution/#comment-56339</link>
		<dc:creator>scott Rex Ely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Prince&#039;s appropriation be considered &quot;Fluxus&quot;?</description>
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