Thank you for your reply.

That is a perfect way to go about it.

S

I completely agree, I have nothing against the images selected as “still yawning” says, but the question i ask myself is, if we stick to what PDN chose, then where the heck is fashion photography going to? I’m SO SICK of seeing the same types of BORING photographs in ANY fashion magazine, I so just so sick of expressionless “fashion” images, where is this fashion photography industry going to? do we have to freaking play it safe to get clients? I say NO!

Fashion is ultimately about selling dream lifestyles, when did we loose that notion to stupid and boring mannequins images? that ANYBODY with a good stylist, mup and designer clothes could do?!

the question i ask myself is, if PDN chose these photographers as the new emerging talent of New York, are they simply deciding where the photographic tendencies should go? Not at all helpful…. I say NO.

I love it when people prefer to shoot the messenger rather than understand the message.

First couple of contests featured a number of fashion/beauty oriented *photographers*. Maybe 20-30% of the total. I’m lousy with names, would have to dig out old issues from the garage. Off the top of my head, Taryn Simon, John Clang, there was an Asian girl originally from LA>NYC>Paris, can’t recall her name. This was back when it was really photography, not digital imagery.

btw – the first two listed were making huge amounts of money when they were selected. Clang had worked for many years in Asia commercially, with probably well over 100 completed assignments – mostly ads. Simon was shooting 8×10 film on the streets of NYC with full crew, talent, lighting for f64 in aperture reduced ambient daylight. What exactly is “new & emerging”?

How meaningful is fashion/beauty in the world today?
Weddings/families are at least as meaningful. Are wedding photographers included in the 30?

This doesn’t mean the image makers included are not talented, hardworking individuals. I question the vehicle, and the industry.

>>Thanks.

I checked out your site. First piece of solid advice I would give you – is get rid of the Mobile Me web site and icons that refuse to load. Nothing screams unprofessional more than a poorly executed template site with Made with a Mac nestled at the bottom of the page.

Details first.

But that’s the only example I know of. Haha.

happy shooting ; )

Dude – who is cutting anyone down? Not me. I asked a question if PDN had the balls to do a follow-up on the ones they have chosen or if they would be interested in doing pieces on people who have had long careers – you know the type of information that someone might actually use to manage their career for longevity.

Why and how did you feel that I was threatened by this article or in my comments? Did I say I was the least bit concerned about any of this?

Oh, they’ve changed it now?
What matter?

With such solid work (and academic background), the big question in my mind is why he feels the need to enter PDN/30. He’s already better than this.

So typical. Anything short of gushing praise is considered sour grapes. I’m not upset at all. Just expressing my opinion.

I think you nailed it. There’s nothing “wrong” with the photographers PDN has chosen, they’re just all safe choices doing expected work.

It probably reflects what the PDN list is — a committee effort. But if the list were peppered with more controversial choices it would be more thought provoking and interesting.

Nothing against the artists chosen, but there really aren’t any images that makes me say “wow” or “damn, I wish I had thought of that.”

The work is good, sometimes interesting, and I’m sure some of these artists will be the hot commodities of tomorrow. But there is not much here that really makes me want to bookmark these artists’ sites and follow their careers, and see what they come up with next month.

Corrected this should read –”I do have to say there is a leading towards the younger generations of emergings than towards the overall whole.”